William Berard on Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:12:38 +0100 (CET)

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Re: [s-d] [s-b] BobTHJ's Refresh Proposal

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From: Mike McGann <mike.mcgann@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [s-d] [s-b] BobTHJ's Refresh Proposal
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On Nov 27, 2007 3:08 AM, William P. Berard
<william.berard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Funny you should mention that, but I was just talking about this with
> 0x44 on IRC last night (well, last night GMT), he pointed out "what
> wouls be the incentive to play", but I think status, recognition and
> intellectual stimulation should be enough...

What is the incentive for a dungeon master in a game of old school
pencil-and-paper D&D game? It works there because it is not a
traditional game. You don't sit down and play for X amount of time
until a winner is declared. Nomic is similar in that aspect. Yes, here
you can "win", but that isn't the driving force of the game (well, I
don't know, other people might disagree on this one)

Oh, no need to elaborate, I completely agree on that! I'm just pointing out
that I can understand that people might find it strange. it seems the people
I was chattign with yesterday did, but I do not want to speak for them

> I've got a couple of ideas
> for this, but I think, at any rate, this should be put to the side
> until we get out of Panic...

Yeah, this should not be considered now, it is an idea. Of course,
people might think of this as very anti-nomic as it might take away a
certain spirit of the game.

Yeh, I'd expect some strong resitance if this was to pass. but with a
careful deifnition of the powers of such supreme priest/arbiter/chancellor
and their limits, along with possibly an election and overthrowing process,
I think it could work within the spirit of the game.

Nomic-like games like Mao or Bartok often need an administrator/dealer,
which is often not a player in the sense that he cannot win nor lose, and
this is nto contrary to their spirit, rather a necessit for practial
implementation purpose.

I wasthinkign about it today, and the main cconcern I can see about such a
role would be that It wouldn't really allow the person in question to be
away for the game for a period of time exceeding a couple of days... and
that a replacement/deputy process could be tricky.
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