William P. Berard on Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:38:18 +0100 (CET)


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Re: [s-d] [s-b] Aaron C's Refresh Porposal


Le 26 nov. 07, à 20:57, Aaron Coquet a écrit :

> I have nothing against you, specifically... Mostly, that was aimed at 
> making
> the faction / agreement / player / things not be players, so we can
> determine if they should be or not.

No problem.

>
> I submit the following revision to my refresh proposal:
>

A couple of comments:  I like the idea of a simple solution (though 
BobTHJ has some interesting proposal with his oracularities system)

> {
> The day is set to nday 1: Breakday [[to give us more time for the next
> part]]
> All Pending proposals are marked as Historical with a win-state of 
> Lost. No
> changes to points or wins are made as a result of this.
> The proposals which are currently Pending are all automatically 
> re-submitted
> by their original authors.


Pending proposals are marked historical, then pending proposals are 
re-submitted? I am confused... plus if it is done in the order you 
mention, there is no pending proposals to be re-submitted, since they 
have all been made historical.


> All ministries are Vacated.
>

Why not.

> All players who have been players for one full nWeek, or who have 
> posted a
> message to the Public Forum or the Emergency Forum, gain the active
> property.
> All players who have had debate about the status of their playerhood 
> or lack
> thereof cease to be players, if in fact they were at all.
> [[This gives everyone who already is a player a chance to be one, and 
> if
> there is debate about whether or not anyone is a player, they can try 
> to
> join again.]]
>

Good move.

> All Devices that exist are transformed into the price that was paid 
> for them
> in Mack.

How about the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch?

> Al Blueprints are destroyed.
>
> All rules between 3-12 and 3-14 inclusive are repealed.
>
> A player is created with the name "The Nomic"
> "The Nomic" submits a proposal to add back rule 3-12
> "The Nomic" submits a proposal to add back rule 3-13
> "The Nomic" submits a proposal to add back rule 3-14
> "The Nomic" ceases to be a player.
> }

Kudos on the idea of re-submitting to a fictious player in order not to 
give points were those proposal to pass (I doubt they would in the 
current state). Now I take it this is mostly about giving us a nweek to 
propose amendements to those rules in order to fix the loophole?

This would work as a short term fix, deeper structrual changes such as 
the ones  suggested by BobTHJ could then be submitted as proposals. 
however adressing the monoploy vs. prohibition situation might be 
needed, as I doubt everyone will be fair-play enough not to abuse the 
"I can do it since it is not prohibited" trick in the nWeek needed for 
us to address the problem.
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