Re: [s-d] Faction anyone ?

["Geoffrey Spear" <geoffspear@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 8/3/07, Peter Cooper Jr. <pete+bnomic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> > My position (as I stated in the Agora discussion forum this morning)
> > is that the Agora ruleset isn't a valid B Nomic agreement since it
> > doesn't *explicitly* spell out how game actions would be taken in B
> > Nomic.  Arguably 5-1 could be taken to require it only to spell out
> > how actions in general will be taken and not need to specifically
> > mention B Nomic actions, in which case Agora could become a faction.
>
> Well, I think that something that generically covered taking actions in
> other nomics would qualify. I don't think it has to mention B
> specifically. If it just covers how its own governing actions will happen,
> then it's an Agreement recognized by B Nomic, but it doesn't have any way
> of performing the Game Action to join as a Faction.
>
> > However, even if Agora's ruleset is a B Nomic agreement, I believe
> > that at the moment I am Agora's Ambassador.  I'll need a CFJ over
> > there to determine whether this means that no other Agora player can
> > take actions in external nomics on Agora's behalf.
>
> Hmm. A CFJ there, or a Consultation here? Or both? And what if they give
> different answers?

Well, if an Agoran CFJ ruled that a Player couldn't initiate actions
within B Nomic, than Rule 5-1's recognition of the Agreement's right
to govern how actions happen would mean that e couldn't initiate
actions, regardless of what our Consultation said.  And obviously if
our Consultation ruled that e couldn't initiate actions here then
Agora's ruling would be irrelevant as well.

Personally I think a Consultation on the issue would be a bad idea
since it would require the Priest to have a full understanding of the
Agora ruleset and passing it off to Agora's justice system to be dealt
with by someone who already has such knowledge seems preferable.

-- 
Geoffrey Spear
http://www.geoffreyspear.com/
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