spoon-discuss: Re: spoon-business: Proposal: Bandwidth Limiting That Works?

[Greg Ritter <gritter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

This is not bandwidth rationing that works.

Length of proposals is not a problem; number of proposals is a problem. Ask 
yourself: would you rather receive one long spam message or forty short ones???

Under this rule, players could still spam the game with forty 
5000-character proposals.

Furthermore, long proposals have their own inherent problems that will 
probably make them "self-regulating" to an extent. Witness the lengthy and 
complex judicial reform proposal last nweek -- many people supported 
individual portions of it, but the whole thing was too complex to pass as a 
single proposal.

Rule 212 rules!!!

Long live Bandwidth Limitations!!!

--gritter


At 12:10 PM 1/14/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> __Verbosity Sux!__
>
> {{
> Repeal rule 212.
>
> Then, create a new rule as follows:
>
> {{
> __All the Proposals You Want, but Keep It Simple__
>
> All players are limited to 6000 non-whitespace characters per ballot.  A
> players may submit as many proposals as e wishes, providing the
> collective text of the player's proposals on the ballot (including
> comments) does not exceed 6000 non-whitespace characters.  This limit
> applies regardless of the nweek in which the proposal was submitted for
> the ballot.
>
> In the event that a player exceeds the limit, eir proposals shall be
> accepted or rejected in the order submitted.  Any proposal that would
> cause the player to exceed the limit will be rejected by the
> Administrator.
>
> If a player submits a revision of a previously-submitted proposal that
> would push the player over the limit, the Administrator will reject that
> revision.
> }}
>
> [[I welcome input from the Administrator on how this might be
> implemented, or if it's impossible.  There are any number of
> freeware/shareware/bloatware editing programs that count non-whitespace
> text (e.g. MS Word, UltraEdit).  But the most elegant solution might be
> to make all proposal submissions via a web page that would automatically
> count the characters and automatically notify the player whether it was
> accepted or rejected.  Saves everyone having to find their own method of
> counting.
>
> Anyway, the rationale should be pretty plain.  Discourage the practice
> (exacerbated by the current 3-prop limit) of making big bloated single
> proposals like my own 236, while still placing some kind of enforceable
> limit on the amount of text we can be subjected to per nweek.  6000
> characters should work out to roughly 800 to 1000 words, depending on
> your preferred vocabulary.  Seems a reasonable limit to me, and that's
> despite the fact that 236 alone was over 8000 non-whitespace
> characters.]]
> }}