Michael Gorman on Sat, 13 Nov 2004 11:07:15 -0600 (CST)

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Re: [eia] Re: British forage rolls, 4/06

At 09:21 AM 11/13/2004, you wrote:

Quoting Mike:
> Actually, all factors in a corps at any part of the move are eligible for
> foraging death.  So the 4 factors would be detached and then would all die
> as you are only allowed to remove a corps counter if all factors in it any
> part of the phase are killed.

I agree with this part of Mike's statement.  Under no circumstances should
JJ be permitted to amend his orders in the way he suggested.  He cannot drop
off garrison factors and have them scooped up by another passing corps to
try to protect them from becoming foraging losses.  Those factors would be
dead as soon as the forage roll was made.

> The first clause here says that you roll forage as you finish movement so
> the conditional order JJ used was the correct method.

This is what I disagree with, and I don't see how it is supported by any of
the rules Mike quoted.  As I recall (I could be wrong), detaching garrison
factors is a part of movement (even if it is at the end of movement).
Therefore, the decision to detach or not detach a garrison should be made
prior to rolling forage.  And then the rules that Mike quoted become
applicable (i.e., losses can be taken from detached garrisons if the
foraging losses would otherwise eliminate the corps).


How else can he write that order out in a single email?

Detaching and picking up does nothing to save the factors but if you know you are going to detach all the factors you can at the end of your move, then writing it the way JJ did allows him to write the orders in a single email and how ever many survive are how many are detached to be picked up. You don't have to send in a series of piecemeal orders which would also draw complaints from people.

I'm not saying his method of writing the orders changed any rules or protected any factors, it was just a piece of administrative simplicity.


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