Re: [eia] Re: British forage rolls, 4/06

[Michael Gorman <mpgorman@xxxxxxxx>]

At 09:21 AM 11/13/2004, you wrote:

> Quoting Mike:
> > Actually, all factors in a corps at any part of the move are eligible for
> > foraging death.  So the 4 factors would be detached and then would all die
> > as you are only allowed to remove a corps counter if all factors in it any
> > part of the phase are killed.
> >
>
> I agree with this part of Mike's statement.  Under no circumstances should
> JJ be permitted to amend his orders in the way he suggested.  He cannot drop
> off garrison factors and have them scooped up by another passing corps to
> try to protect them from becoming foraging losses.  Those factors would be
> dead as soon as the forage roll was made.
>
> > The first clause here says that you roll forage as you finish movement so
> > the conditional order JJ used was the correct method.
>
> This is what I disagree with, and I don't see how it is supported by any of
> the rules Mike quoted.  As I recall (I could be wrong), detaching garrison
> factors is a part of movement (even if it is at the end of movement).
> Therefore, the decision to detach or not detach a garrison should be made
> prior to rolling forage.  And then the rules that Mike quoted become
> applicable (i.e., losses can be taken from detached garrisons if the
> foraging losses would otherwise eliminate the corps).
>
> kdh

How else can he write that order out in a single email?

Detaching and picking up does nothing to save the factors but if you know 
you are going to detach all the factors you can at the end of your move, 
then writing it the way JJ did allows him to write the orders in a single 
email and how ever many survive are how many are detached to be picked 
up.  You don't have to send in a series of piecemeal orders which would 
also draw complaints from people.

I'm not saying his method of writing the orders changed any rules or 
protected any factors, it was just a piece of administrative simplicity.

Mike

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