James Baxter on Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:54:40 -0700 (MST) |
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Re: [s-d] [s-b] This game is boring, let's have an Emergency. |
OK I think B Nomic is probably platonic as it has no existence except as defined by the rules. If the rules cease to hold power in their own right then it just becomes a series of loose customs and none of us would have to follow the rules because the have no real meaning. So B Nomic must be platonic. This leaves us with the problem of working out the correct ruleset. The most thorough approach involves starting from a known ruleset and gamestate then slowly working through the mailing list archives to determine how each action affects the gamestate until we have the correct gamestate and ruleset. Then we will know for certain how to fix this. This is obviously not the most ideal solution but I can't think of a better one, unless you want to brush over it and say that the current gamestate is correct. I would like to know for certain what the gamestate is however. As for actually determining the gamestate, http://web.archive.org/web/20041205140215/www.bnomic.org/static/rules.html would seem a good place to start. The problem here is that we're still not certain when this is from. The archive says it is from 8th December 2004 but the page mentions revisions up to nweek 79 (Rules 23, 699, 1586, 1900, 1902, 1905 and 1906) so this ruleset must be from at least nweek 80, which began on 13th February 2005 (http://lists.ellipsis.cx/archives/spoon-business/spoon-business-200502/msg00093.html). This makes me uncertain about where to start. Looking at the voting results for nweek 79, we see that proposals 1999, 2000, 2002 and 2004 passed (http://lists.ellipsis.cx/archives/spoon-business/spoon-business-200502/msg00094.html). Looking at proposal 1999 (latest version here: http://lists.ellipsis.cx/archives/spoon-business/spoon-business-200502/msg00057.html), nweek 79 must have seen the ammendment of rule 14. This is not reported in the archived ruleset, which states that rule 14 was last updated in nweek 77 although it does not include the text removed by proposal 1999. The version of rule 14 in the archived rulestet is 14/4 but the voting results mention that rule 14 is updated to 14/7. We must therefore consider that the nweek numbers in the archived ruleset are wrong. Looking at the voting results for nweek 73 (nearest voting results to the archived ruleset: http://lists.ellipsis.cx/archives/spoon-business/spoon-business-200412/msg00000.html), proposals 1944, 1945, 1946, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1951 and 1952 passed in nweek 73. Looking at proposal 1944 (latest verion here: http://lists.ellipsis.cx/archives/spoon-business/spoon-business-200411/msg00062.html), it created a new rule which is seen in the archived ruleset as rule 1905. This implies that we should go from nweek 74 in checking the gamestate (assuming the archived ruleset is correct, the game wasn't platonic back then so it's difficult to be sure, http://web.archive.org/web/20011213202851/www.nomic.net/~g6/list.php?t=r&a=1&z=999 may be a better but more crazy starting point with verification of each action throughout first era rather than just determining the correct ruleset from the last known one). _______________________________________________ spoon-discuss mailing list spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/spoon-discuss