[s-d] Loss of BP's Ordained Status

[Tyler <wisety@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ouch. This was to discuss. Goodbye ordained status for BP. Sorry, I didn't
notice this until it was too late.


On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Jamie Dallaire <bad.leprechaun@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Warrigal
> <ihope127+w@xxxxxxxxx <ihope127%2Bw@xxxxxxxxx><ihope127%2Bw@xxxxxxxxx<ihope127%252Bw@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > wrote:
>
> > > Are there Active Players, other than comex, in the Game of B Nomic?
> > >
> > > Reasoning: Contracts are defined by the Rules and as such can only
> affect
> > things within the Rules. Breathing is not defined by the Rules and as no
> > Players have said that they breathe as a Game Action, no players have
> become
> > a party to the contract "Suffocation" and so have not Forfeited the Game.
>
>
> I Answer Consultation 183 YES.
>
> Reasoning:
> {
> My Answer is only part of the game if I am an Active Player, and I am not
> comex. Hence, the only logical Answer is YES.
>
> And now here's why I actually should be answering this question, i.e. why
> we're all still Players:
>
> comex created a Contract, specifying that Players could become bound to it
> by breathing. The contract created the obligation for parties other than
> comex to forfeit, and comex triggered this action for all Active Players
> (save for himself) a few minutes after creating the Contract.
>
> I would argue that no one but comex ever became bound by that Contract.
> Thus, he never successfully triggered forfeits, and no one was deregistered
> without doing so themselves.
>
> Rule 5E10 (Game Actions) states that "A Game Action is defined as any
> activity specified by the Rules that changes the state of the game." In
> addition, "To perform a Game Action, an Outsider must post a message to a
> Public Forum specifying that they are taking that action", though "The
> Rules
> also have the power to cause an Outsider to take Game Actions whether they
> post or not."
>
> Because breathing would change the state of the game, it is a Game Action.
> Though it is reasonable to assume that most Players breathed between the
> time the Contract was created and comex tried to deregister em, no Player
> breathed to a Public Forum. The only other way for Outsiders (including
> Players) to take Game Actions is by posting to such a forum, unless the
> Rules cause them to take the Game Action without posting.
>
> No part of the Rules ever causes any Player to breathe. Therefore, any
> breathing that occurs outside of the context of the game (not on a Public
> Forum) cannot be considered a Game Action, meaning it cannot change the
> state of the game.
> }
>
> Billy Pilgrim
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