Re: [s-d] AFO disclosure

["Mike McGann" <mike.mcgann@xxxxxxxxx>]

Question. Is this an informal inquiry? I have not been assigned as a
Priest (from what I can see), this was sent to a non-public forum, and
while arguments are listed, I have to be Alex Trebeck and say they are
not in the form of a question.

- Hose

On 11/21/07, Ed Murphy <emurphy42@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> For reference, the AFO is defined by the body of text at the end of
> this message, and its members are me, comex, and Levi (another Agoran
> player).  Agora explicitly defines such an agreement as a person,
> provided that it transfers its legal obligations onto two or more of
> its members (there's also an anti-redundancy-loophole clause).  B Nomic
> may or may not decide to accept this by reference.
>
> I present the following arguments, and will let Priest Hose decide
> which of them (if any) hold water.  I also politely ask Priest Hose
> to state whether e would interpret the situation differently if comex
> was not a player of B Nomic in eir own right.
>
>   a) The AFO is an entity distinct from any of its members.
>
>   b) For the purpose of actions in B Nomic, "announcing" in item 4 of
>      the agreement is satisfied by posting to spoon-business.  (Agora
>      explicitly ties "by announcement" to its agora-business list.)
>
>   c) If I can cause the AFO to act at all, then I can cause it to
>      speak, think, and send and receive e-mail, and thus cause it
>      to pass a Membership Test.
>
> [begin text]
> 1. This is a binding agreement governed by the Rules of Agora. Parties
> to this agreement are known as Partners.
>
> 2. The Partners shall jointly act as a partnership, in a manner
> governed by this agreement.  The ability of each Partner to act as an
> individual is not thereby impaired.  The partnership shall be known as
> the Association of Federated Organizations.
>
> 3. The AFO may incur obligations, rights, and privileges under the
> Rules of Agora.  The Partners may act on behalf of the AFO to satisfy
> such obligations and to exercise such rights and privileges, as
> permitted by this agreement.
>
> 4. Any Partner may act on behalf of the AFO by announcing the action
> and clearly indicating that it is performed by the AFO. This is the
> only mechanism by which the AFO can act.
>
> 5. The Partners shall ensure that the AFO obeys the Rules of Agora to
> the maximum possible extent.
>
> 6. This agreement may be amended by the unanimous consent of the
> Partners.
>
> 7. New Partners may be admitted to this agreement by the unanimous
> consent of the current Partners.  Partners may leave the agreement by
> giving notice to all other Partners.  If the number of Partners falls
> below two, then this agreement shall terminate and the AFO shall
> dissolve.
> [end text]
>
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