Glotmorf on 9 May 2003 11:40:01 -0000


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Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Society Creation


On 5/9/03 at 12:00 AM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:

>>From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>On 5/8/03 at 8:22 PM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
>>>>From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>On 5/8/03 at 12:04 AM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
>>>>>>From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>On 5/7/03 at 8:30 PM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
>>>>>>>>From: "Craig" <ragnarok@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>I hereby create a society known as Teucer's First Bank of Bandwidth,
>>>or
>>>>>>>>TFBB. Its charter is as follows:
>>>>>>>>{{
>>>>>>>>Whenever Teucer wishes, this society will give em one Bandwidth.
>>>>>>>>}}
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I give five Bandwidth to TFBB. So, next nweek I get five more,
>right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That thtill hathn't been plugged?  I propothe the following:
>>>>>>>{{__Bandwidth in a jar?__
>>>>>>>Change the text of Rule 212, __Bandwidth__, to:
>>>>>>>{{Each player and society has a property called Bandwidth, which is a
>>>>>>>numerical value. No object's Bandwidth may ever exceed 10.  At the
>>>>>>>beginning
>>>>>>>of each nweek, the Bandwidth of each player whose Bandwidth is less
>>>than
>>>>>5
>>>>>>>is increased to 5, and the Bandwidth of all objects that are not
>>>players
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>have Bandwidth is set to 0.  For objects with Bandwidth, sumbitting a
>>>>>>>proposal costs one Bandwidth.  An object may not submit a proposal if
>>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>so would result in the object having a negative Bandwidth.  When a
>>>>>>>player
>>>>>>>joins the game, eir Bandwidth is set to 5.  This rule supercedes rule
>>>>>>>19.
>>>>>>>}}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So.  First you wanted to take away my society's contractural
>>>>>>arrangement
>>>>>>capacity because you didn't want me "shamelessly exploiting long-gone
>>>>>>players" (and I assume Iain's recent proposal shows just how
>>>exploitative
>>>>>I
>>>>>>was), and now you want to take away the bandwidth I've saved up in
>>>M-Tek.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Precisely what is this bug you have up your butt regarding
>>>decapacitating
>>>>>>my society?
>>>>>
>>>>>It has nothing to do with you.  Bandwidth's intent is to keep proposals
>>>>>down
>>>>>to a manageable level each nweek.  The proposal is simply bringing the
>>>>>game
>>>>>into line with that intent.
>>>>>
>>>>>If we want to allow bandwidth storage, we might as well make a rule
>that
>>>>>says "For each player, there exists a society named "X's Bank", where X
>>>is
>>>>>that player's name, with the charter "This society give bandwidth X
>>>>>whenever
>>>>>e states it does.".  At the end of each nweek, all bandwith of each
>>>player
>>>>>is transferred to X's Bank."  For otherwise, everyone will just make
>>>>>said
>>>>>society, charter, and automation script.
>>>>>Your proposal won't stop bandwidth storage.  If someone wants to store
>>>>>bandwidth, all e'd have to do is make enough societies to hold it all,
>>>>>whether a society could hold five or ten or whatever.
>>>>
>>>>So you're not stopping bandwidth storage.  All you're doing is wiping
>out
>>>>what I've got stored.
>>>
>>>I could be wrong, but I think you misunderstand.  Each nweek, the
>>>Bandwidth
>>>of everything that is not a player is set to zero.  Meaning that
>societies
>>>can't store 5, can't store 10, they can store a whole 0 Bandwidth.  I
>>>don't
>>>see how having multiple societies with 0 Bandwith will help you store
>>>Bandwidth.
>>>*sigh* Okay, I missed that part.  Still, since I'm the only one with
>>>significant bandwidth reserves, I'll be the one most affected, so I'm
>the
>>>one taking it the most personally.
>>
>>I've been storing up bandwidth for nweeks, and you never said a thing.
>Why
>>make an issue of it now?
>
>I thought it was being taken care of, a while back, but wasn't paying much
>attention.  Teucer brought the fact that the loophole still existed back
>to
>light, and it honestly suprised me.  If I had thought the loophole was
>still
>around and was gonna stay, I woulda changed my Automation Script long ago.

So...change your automation script now, do something else with the prop, and let me keep my bandwidth?

						Glotmorf

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