Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Society Creation

["Orc In A Spacesuit" <orcinaspacesuit@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> On 5/8/03 at 8:22 PM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
> > > From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > On 5/8/03 at 12:04 AM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
> > > > > From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > On 5/7/03 at 8:30 PM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
> > > > > > > From: "Craig" <ragnarok@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > I hereby create a society known as Teucer's First Bank of Bandwidth,
> > or
> > > > > > > TFBB. Its charter is as follows:
> > > > > > > {{
> > > > > > > Whenever Teucer wishes, this society will give em one Bandwidth.
> > > > > > > }}
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I give five Bandwidth to TFBB. So, next nweek I get five more, right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That thtill hathn't been plugged?  I propothe the following:
> > > > > > {{__Bandwidth in a jar?__
> > > > > > Change the text of Rule 212, __Bandwidth__, to:
> > > > > > {{Each player and society has a property called Bandwidth, which is a
> > > > > > numerical value. No object's Bandwidth may ever exceed 10.  At the
> > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > of each nweek, the Bandwidth of each player whose Bandwidth is less
> > than
> > > > 5
> > > > > > is increased to 5, and the Bandwidth of all objects that are not
> > players
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > have Bandwidth is set to 0.  For objects with Bandwidth, sumbitting a
> > > > > > proposal costs one Bandwidth.  An object may not submit a proposal if
> > > > > > doing
> > > > > > so would result in the object having a negative Bandwidth.  When a
> > > > > > player
> > > > > > joins the game, eir Bandwidth is set to 5.  This rule supercedes rule
> > > > > > 19.
> > > > > > }}
> > > > >
> > > > > So.  First you wanted to take away my society's contractural 
> > > > > arrangement
> > > > > capacity because you didn't want me "shamelessly exploiting long-gone
> > > > > players" (and I assume Iain's recent proposal shows just how
> > exploitative
> > > > I
> > > > > was), and now you want to take away the bandwidth I've saved up in
> > M-Tek.
> > > > > Precisely what is this bug you have up your butt regarding
> > decapacitating
> > > > > my society?
> > > >
> > > > It has nothing to do with you.  Bandwidth's intent is to keep proposals
> > > > down
> > > > to a manageable level each nweek.  The proposal is simply bringing the
> > > > game
> > > > into line with that intent.
> > > >
> > > > If we want to allow bandwidth storage, we might as well make a rule that
> > > > says "For each player, there exists a society named "X's Bank", where X
> > is
> > > > that player's name, with the charter "This society give bandwidth X
> > > > whenever
> > > > e states it does.".  At the end of each nweek, all bandwith of each
> > player
> > > > is transferred to X's Bank."  For otherwise, everyone will just make 
> > > > said
> > > > society, charter, and automation script.
> > > > Your proposal won't stop bandwidth storage.  If someone wants to store
> > > > bandwidth, all e'd have to do is make enough societies to hold it all,
> > > > whether a society could hold five or ten or whatever.
> > >
> > > So you're not stopping bandwidth storage.  All you're doing is wiping out
> > > what I've got stored.
> >
> > I could be wrong, but I think you misunderstand.  Each nweek, the
> > Bandwidth
> > of everything that is not a player is set to zero.  Meaning that societies
> > can't store 5, can't store 10, they can store a whole 0 Bandwidth.  I
> > don't
> > see how having multiple societies with 0 Bandwith will help you store
> > Bandwidth.
> > *sigh* Okay, I missed that part.  Still, since I'm the only one with 
> > significant bandwidth reserves, I'll be the one most affected, so I'm the 
> > one taking it the most personally.
>
> I've been storing up bandwidth for nweeks, and you never said a thing.  Why 
> make an issue of it now?

I thought it was being taken care of, a while back, but wasn't paying much 
attention.  Teucer brought the fact that the loophole still existed back to 
light, and it honestly suprised me.  If I had thought the loophole was still 
around and was gonna stay, I woulda changed my Automation Script long ago.

Orc in a Spacesuit

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