Orc In A Spacesuit on 9 May 2003 05:01:01 -0000


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Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Society Creation


From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 5/8/03 at 8:22 PM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 5/8/03 at 12:04 AM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 5/7/03 at 8:30 PM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
From: "Craig" <ragnarok@xxxxxxxxx>
I hereby create a society known as Teucer's First Bank of Bandwidth,
or
TFBB. Its charter is as follows:
{{
Whenever Teucer wishes, this society will give em one Bandwidth.
}}

I give five Bandwidth to TFBB. So, next nweek I get five more, right?

That thtill hathn't been plugged?  I propothe the following:
{{__Bandwidth in a jar?__
Change the text of Rule 212, __Bandwidth__, to:
{{Each player and society has a property called Bandwidth, which is a
numerical value. No object's Bandwidth may ever exceed 10.  At the
beginning
of each nweek, the Bandwidth of each player whose Bandwidth is less
than
5
is increased to 5, and the Bandwidth of all objects that are not
players
and
have Bandwidth is set to 0.  For objects with Bandwidth, sumbitting a
proposal costs one Bandwidth.  An object may not submit a proposal if
doing
so would result in the object having a negative Bandwidth.  When a
player
joins the game, eir Bandwidth is set to 5.  This rule supercedes rule
19.
}}

So. First you wanted to take away my society's contractural arrangement
capacity because you didn't want me "shamelessly exploiting long-gone
players" (and I assume Iain's recent proposal shows just how
exploitative
I
was), and now you want to take away the bandwidth I've saved up in
M-Tek.

Precisely what is this bug you have up your butt regarding
decapacitating
my society?

It has nothing to do with you.  Bandwidth's intent is to keep proposals
down
to a manageable level each nweek.  The proposal is simply bringing the
game
into line with that intent.

If we want to allow bandwidth storage, we might as well make a rule that
says "For each player, there exists a society named "X's Bank", where X
is
that player's name, with the charter "This society give bandwidth X
whenever
e states it does.".  At the end of each nweek, all bandwith of each
player
is transferred to X's Bank." For otherwise, everyone will just make said
society, charter, and automation script.
Your proposal won't stop bandwidth storage.  If someone wants to store
bandwidth, all e'd have to do is make enough societies to hold it all,
whether a society could hold five or ten or whatever.

So you're not stopping bandwidth storage.  All you're doing is wiping out
what I've got stored.

I could be wrong, but I think you misunderstand.  Each nweek, the
Bandwidth
of everything that is not a player is set to zero.  Meaning that societies
can't store 5, can't store 10, they can store a whole 0 Bandwidth.  I
don't
see how having multiple societies with 0 Bandwith will help you store
Bandwidth.
*sigh* Okay, I missed that part. Still, since I'm the only one with significant bandwidth reserves, I'll be the one most affected, so I'm the one taking it the most personally.

I've been storing up bandwidth for nweeks, and you never said a thing. Why make an issue of it now?

I thought it was being taken care of, a while back, but wasn't paying much attention. Teucer brought the fact that the loophole still existed back to light, and it honestly suprised me. If I had thought the loophole was still around and was gonna stay, I woulda changed my Automation Script long ago.

Orc in a Spacesuit

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