Daniel Lepage on 30 Apr 2003 19:39:01 -0000

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Re: [spoon-discuss] Fwd: Re: Observers

On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 10:44  PM, Baron von Skippy wrote:

-B Nomic, meet "deltanine," a.k.a. "sam nichols," a.k.a. "quarksbar9." Deltanine is quick to anger, quick to friendliness. Her attention span is pretty short, as is her temper. As you can no doubt guess, the "troll" (what is that, anyway?) is yours truly. If you'd like anything passed on, you who are observers, send it through me. I won't edit it or comment on it, and I'm not the one who tried to bring B Nomic down.

From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913):

Troll \Troll\, n. [Icel. troll. Cf. Droll, Trull.] (Scand.
   A supernatural being, often represented as of diminutive
   size, but sometimes as a giant, and fabled to inhabit caves,
   hills, and like places; a witch.

   Troll flower. (Bot.) Same as Globeflower
   (a) .


From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913):

Troll \Troll\, v. i.
   1. To roll; to run about; to move around; as, to troll in a
      coach and six.
   2. To move rapidly; to wag. --F. Beaumont.
   3. To take part in trolling a song.
   4. To fish with a rod whose line runs on a reel; also, to
      fish by drawing the hook through the water.

Troll \Troll\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Trolled; p. pr. & vb. n.
   Trolling.] [OE. trollen to roll, F. tr[^o]ler, Of. troller
   to drag about, to ramble; probably of Teutonic origin; cf. G.
   trollen to roll, ramble, sich trollen to be gone; or perhaps
   for trotler, fr. F. trotter to trot (cf. Trot.). Cf.
   1. To move circularly or volubly; to roll; to turn.
   2. To send about; to circulate, as a vessel in drinking.
   3. To sing the parts of in succession, as of a round, a
      catch, and the like; also, to sing loudly or freely.
   4. To angle for with a trolling line, or with a book drawn
      along the surface of the water; hence, to allure.
   5. To fish in; to seek to catch fish from.

Troll \Troll\, n.
   1. The act of moving round; routine; repetition. --Burke.
   2. A song the parts of which are sung in succession; a catch;
      a round.
   3. A trolley.

   Troll plate (Mach.), a rotative disk with spiral ribs or
      grooves, by which several pieces, as the jaws of a chuck,
      can be brought together or spread radially.


From WordNet (r) 1.7:

     n : (Scandinavian folklore) a supernatural creature (either a
         dwarf or a giant) that is supposed to live in caves or in
         the mountains
     v 1: circulate, move around
     2: cause to move round and round; "The child trolled her hoop"
     3: sing the parts of (a round) in succession
     4: angle with a hook and line drawn through the water
     5: sing loudly and without inhibition
     6: praise or celebrate in song; "All tongues shall troll you"
     7: speak or recite rapidly or in a rolling voice


From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (09 FEB 02):


   An array language for continuous simulation, econometric
   modelling or statistical analysis.

   ["TROLL Reference Manual", D0062, Info Proc Services, MIT


From Jargon File (4.3.0, 30 APR 2001):

troll v.,n. 1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a
   posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or
   flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for
   newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of
   fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a
bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT. 2. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are
   named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such,
   they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh,
   ignore him, he's just a troll." Compare kook. 3. [Berkeley] Computer
   lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS students. Duties include
   helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably
   so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners.

   Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower
   category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing
   some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also

   The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that readily
   produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not
   infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed the troll" as part of a
   followup to troll postings.


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