Re: [spoon-discuss] Nomic Market will begin whenever

["Orc In A Spacesuit" <orcinaspacesuit@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> From: "Craig" <ragnarok@xxxxxxxxx>
> I have created a mailing list for a new Nomic Market. Both B Nomic and
> ThermodyNomic are encouraged to petition for membership.

I have the proposal for B written out in my mind, but won't submit it just 
yet.

> Anyway, for now the Market will use the mailing list
> nomicmarket@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and its web archives will be at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nomicmarket/ , if anyone with the capability 
> to host mailing lists wishes to get it off of yahoogroups, I'm cool with 
> that; just let me know.

I believe Joel can help with that.

> The rules for the Nomic Market will be as follows:
>
> Any player of any Nomic on the List may declare emself to be at the Market, 
> subject to the rules of eir home Nomic.

"Home Nomic" isn't well-defined, and won't work well when players play in 
multiple Nomics; I would suggest that as a part of the declaration, a player 
must choose a Nomic on the List that e is is player of to be eir home Nomic.

> Such a declaration must be made on the Nomic Market mailing list and on the 
> list of the home Nomic; archives of both must be publicly availible. While 
> at the Market, all players may give their in-game posessions to one 
> another;

I would suggest that it also have "... if the rules of the giving player's 
home Nomic and the receiving player's home Nomic both permit that giving."

> such things are destroyed in one game and created in another.

Destroyed in which game and created in which game?  May I suggest, "the 
object that is given is destroyed in the giving player's home Nomic, and an 
identical object is created in the receiving player's Nomic in the 
possession of the receiving player."

> Any player who is at the Market continuously for one week without trading 
> any goods is considered to leave the Market.

Seems a bit short to me when you consider the fact that it's the players who 
are at the market that get to determine the rules.  Though if the 
modification I suggest below is put in, this won't be a problem.

> While at the Market, all players are bound by the rules of the Market and 
> of their home Nomics; anything not prohibited by either of these is 
> permitted.
>
> Since this is a Nomic-related activity, it is only natural that the rules 
> be amendable; therefore this document may be amended if and only if a 
> proposed change has the support of two thirds of all who are currently at 
> the Market.

If two-thirds of the players who are At The Market are the sort to snatch at 
any opportunity for power (which just about all the B Nomic players are), 
they'll form a little coalition and make themselves into a little cartel, 
making the rules advantageous to them and very disadvantageous for anyone 
else wanting to be At The Market.  Therefore, I would suggest requiring that 
every Nomic on the List declare that they approve of a change.  Sure, it'll 
be time-consuming, but the Market shouldn't need many rules if the 
individual Nomics take care of managing what their players can trade.

Orc in a Spacesuit

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