Re: [spoon-discuss] Prop: Volitionals

[Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Saturday, April 19, 2003, at 06:33  PM, Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:

> There currently appears to be something very wrong with the internet, 
> as I can access about half of it, but not the other.  For the missing 
> stuff, the traceroutes all go up to a certain point then just time 
> out.  So I'm assuming that some important point out there is messed 
> up.  Either with Qwest, or somebody they connect to from Dallas, from 
> the looks of these traceroutes.  Been this way for about 5 hours now.
>
> This is relevant because part of the missing internet is the 
> www.nomic.net server.  Which means that I can't see the rules.  Which 
> means if I want to get a prop in befrore voting starts in an hour in a 
> half, I'm going to have to wing this.

Well, since you -discussed it, you don't have to worry. Which is good, 
'cause I'd probably vote against its current form.

> I propose the following:
> {{__Volitionals__
> If there exists a current, unrepealed rule titled __Definitions__, add 
> the following {THETEXT}-delmited text to the end of it.  If not, 
> create a new rule title __Volitionals__ which consists of the 
> following {THETEXT}-delmited text.
>
> {THETEXT}
> Some objects may be defined by the rules to be Volitionals.  This has 
> an in-game definition seperate from any other definition in the 
> English language.  And object is considered by this game to be a 
> Volitional if and only if it is defined by the rules as a Volitional.
>
> [[Volitionals are objects that are able to perform actions.  This is 
> independent of whether or not those objects have any intelligence.  An 
> airspeeder can perform the 'move' action, and one could say that it's 
> electronics have it decide to whenever its owner mashes some > buttons.]]
>
> All Volitionals are either GridVols or Non-GridVols; any object which 
> is a GridVol or a Non-GridVol is also a Volitional..  GridVols may 
> exist in a location Non-GridVols may not.
>
> Players, Yetis, Gremlins, Gnomes, Airspeeders, Armies are GridVols.  
> Societies are Non-GridVols.
> {THETEXT}
>
> [[I leave the Admin off, and don't actually tie being a Volitional to 
> performing actions.  Doing something like making being a Volitional a 
> requirement to perform actions is something for when/if we ever 
> standardize actions.]]
> }}
> [[End proposal]]

I don't like that definition for 'volitional'. I would use the word to 
refer to things with free will, i.e., players and the admin.

I also don't like the bit about GridVols and Non-GridVols. We have a 
definition for a Grid Object; use that. GridVols are then just 
volitational Grid Objects. Don't make separate parallel classes.

--
Wonko

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