Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] The Daily Recognizer (Friday evening)

["Orc In A Spacesuit" <orcinaspacesuit@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> On 4/19/03 at 12:04 AM Daniel Lepage wrote:
> > On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 11:49  PM, Glotmorf wrote:
> >
> > > On 4/18/03 at 9:17 PM David E. Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wild West Justice:
> > > > Baron von Skippy rules TRUE on CFI 1438.
> > > > Orc appeals CFI 1438.
> > > > The following are eligible to rule on that CFI, via the Upper House:
> > > > Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, bd, Glotmorf, Iain, Rob, Wonko
> > > > Those seven players have to arrive at a majority decision, or else I
> > > > do it.
> > >
> > > I rule TRUE on the CFI.
> >
> > Would you claim, then, that a player hit by a Pinball gun can be
> > stopped by a Siren? It's basically the same situation - the player is
> > being forced to move by a different object.
>
> Ah, but it's not the same situation.  Mr. in a Spacesuit is being forced to 
> move by the speeder, yes, but e's the one that caused the speeder to move.  
> E did in fact push a button or whatever to cause the speeder, with em in 
> it, to move.  And the whole premise of being caught by a siren is that the 
> victim doesn't want to move away from her.  If e doesn't want to move away 
> from her, e doesn't want to cause eir speeder to take em away from her 
> either.
>
> Were someone else to somehow cause eir speeder to move, or cause em against 
> eir will to cause eir speeder to move, that would be a different matter.  
> But e's allegedly causing eir speeder to move with em in it, and presumably 
> this is something e voluntarily would not do.

However, the rules don't care who causes what; the rules have no concept of 
desire or cause and effect, at least now.  All they say is that I personally 
cannot take the move action.

Orc in a Spacesuit

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