Orc In A Spacesuit on 19 Apr 2003 20:38:01 -0000


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Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] The Daily Recognizer (Friday evening)


From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 4/19/03 at 12:04 AM Daniel Lepage wrote:
On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 11:49  PM, Glotmorf wrote:

On 4/18/03 at 9:17 PM David E. Smith wrote:

Wild West Justice:
Baron von Skippy rules TRUE on CFI 1438.
Orc appeals CFI 1438.
The following are eligible to rule on that CFI, via the Upper House:
Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, bd, Glotmorf, Iain, Rob, Wonko
Those seven players have to arrive at a majority decision, or else I
do it.

I rule TRUE on the CFI.

Would you claim, then, that a player hit by a Pinball gun can be
stopped by a Siren? It's basically the same situation - the player is
being forced to move by a different object.

Ah, but it's not the same situation. Mr. in a Spacesuit is being forced to move by the speeder, yes, but e's the one that caused the speeder to move. E did in fact push a button or whatever to cause the speeder, with em in it, to move. And the whole premise of being caught by a siren is that the victim doesn't want to move away from her. If e doesn't want to move away from her, e doesn't want to cause eir speeder to take em away from her either.

Were someone else to somehow cause eir speeder to move, or cause em against eir will to cause eir speeder to move, that would be a different matter. But e's allegedly causing eir speeder to move with em in it, and presumably this is something e voluntarily would not do.

However, the rules don't care who causes what; the rules have no concept of desire or cause and effect, at least now. All they say is that I personally cannot take the move action.

Orc in a Spacesuit

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