Re: [spoon-discuss] Step one on the road to InterNomic II

["Baron von Skippy" <baronvonskippy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> Because it takes no effort for them to stop us?
>
> You seem to think that we can force other Nomics to do what we want; you 
> seem even to think that we can invade them at any time if we choose. But we 
> can't. They don't need us nor our rules; if we bother them, they can choose 
> to ignore us. And there's nothing we can do about it. For us to declare war 
> on a nomic would be like a Magic player casting a Lightning Bolt at a 
> player in a nearby game of chess - the chess player doesn't care about the 
> bolt, she just ignores it, and the Bolter can't do a thing about it. 
> Likewise, if we declare that our invading armies trample another Nomic's 
> rules and beat them into the ground, they can simply ignore us, as we are 
> not a part of their gamestate unless they allow us to be.
>
> If internomic trading is to occur, it must be something beneficial to all 
> Nomics involved; if they don't like it, they don't have to play.

-The Nomic Wiki has the records of two inter-nomic wars already. Neither 
needed Ambassadors. Agora simply trampled two Nomics which pissed it off. I 
mean, really. A war like you describe is like two children shooting 
imaginary guns at each other. "Bang!" "You missed!" I'm talking about an 
all-out grapple to the death.-
> > > Hm... The only other active nomic I know about is Agora, and I'm not even 
> > > sure
> > > where that is... Most of the ones on the Wiki, last time I looked, had
> > > out-of-date entries.
> >
> > -Then look under "active games" at the Wiki. Let's see...
> > Agora Nomic
> > Blog Nomic (open only to bloggers)
>
> Still possible... someone just needs a blog.
-Hence my mentioning it. Glotmorf, you keep one, yes?-
> > Civ3 Democracy Game (active but strange)
>
> It's hard to tell whether this actually is a Nomic...
>
> > ErgoNomic (I think - hard to tell)
>
> Definitely active. And high-tech. They're the ones with a sourceforge site 
> for their Nomic engine.
-Their website doesn't make looking around easy unless you want to join.-
> > Live Journal Nomic (closed at the moment)
>
> But they're active.
-Active but closed. Unless they send an Ambassador, we can't deal with 
them.-
> > No-Name Nomic (status unknown - I don't speak German)
>
> Could be active, but I fear the language barrier will prevent trading.
-If we don't have anyone appropriately bilingual, maybe they do.-
> > Nomicron (active but slow... they welcome new players, though - 8 new ones 
> > in March)
> > Pustic (might be active, but the web site is down at the moment)
>
> NomiPo and Pustic both look like they never really got started... I think 
> we can dismiss them.
-Who's NomiPo?-
> > Ruby-Nomic (apparently, one of its players logged on 3 hours ago)
> > YibMOO *N:Tangle (might be alive, but I don't have telnet or a MOO client, 
> > so I can't tell)
>
> Telnetting to it, I see a few players who are active... but I can't seem to 
> find anything resembling a ruleset. It seems to be more of a programming 
> funhouse...
-Probably not very compatible, then.-
> > So, that's between 5 and 10 other Nomics on Nomic Wiki alone. I'm sure 
> > there are more out there, we just have to find them.-
>
> FRC is open... though I'm not sure what we could possibly offer them that 
> would fit in with eir ruleset...
-I don't know what we can offer anyone. But someone might really, really 
want Big Rocks. Don't ask them why, just sell them the stones.-
> --
> Wonko
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