Re: [s-b] Consultations on the Pencil Sharpener

["Charles Schaefer" <chuckles11489@xxxxxxxxx>]

2008/12/19, Ed Murphy <emurphy42@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Billy Pilgrim wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Jamie Dallaire <
> bad.leprechaun@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >
> >> {Question: Are the answers to Pondered Consultations correct, after
> >>> the Consultations become Pondered?
> >>> Unbeliever: ehird
> >>> Arguments: if not, then what the fuck is the point of Consultations?
> >>> Also, if not, then lots of PDs have been treated as correct because
> >>> they reflected game reality as described by Pondered Consultations,
> >>> possibly without actually doing so; these having not been ratified,
> >>> there have been unfulfilled ministerial obligations at various points
> >>> and we're probably in some sort of clock crisis.}
> >> This is Consultation 168.
> >>
> >>> {Question: Do the answers to Pondered Consultations become correct
> >>> when the Consultations become Pondered?
> >>> Unbeliever: ehird
> >>> Arguments: Assuming the above to be found TRUE, as it should be (IMO),
> >>> either they become correct when Pondered or they are understood to
> >>> have always been correct. Since we have the power to find Inconsistent
> >>> those Consultations that don't plausibly reflect pre-Consultation game
> >>> reality, I'm inclined to think the answer is No - their truth value
> >>> does not change as a result of being Pondered; they're just the final
> >>> word on what was or was not already the case.}
> >> This is Consultation 169.
> >>
> >
> > I assign Consultations 168 and 169 to Priest Murphy.
>
> 168:  Usually, but not necessarily always, so NO.  But I don't know of
> any specific Pondered Consultation that was incorrect at the time.
>
> 169:  NO, for basically the reason given by the submitter.  They're the
> final word on what we collectively believe was or was not already the
> case.  For matters that could reasonably be interpreted in multiple
> ways, this effectively decides that one of those ways was right all
> along.  For matters where we're mistaken, we remain mistaken until
> someone notices, or we adopt legislation explicitly addressing the
> issue, or we paper over the issue by approving a relevant PD.


I submit the same answers and reasonings as Murphy.

-- 
> w1n5t0n aka
> Charles Schaefer
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