Mel Chin on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:36:36 -0700 (MST)


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Re: [eia] updated map


One question, how many Prussian prisoners were released in the January
surrender?

Thanks,
Mel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Jaffe" <billj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'public list for an Empires in Arms game'" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [eia] updated map


> Sounds OK with me...
>
> Bill Jaffe
> Wargaming since Tactics (1958), and playing 18xx since 1829
> billj@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Mel
> Chin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:56 AM
> To: public list for an Empires in Arms game
> Subject: Re: [eia] updated map
>
> Guys,
>
> I'm going to try and recreate the Prussians from the December Economics
> forward.
> I've checked the archives and I have the Blucher's corps strengths from
> after the battle with the Russians (6G,15I,9C) and I'll take into affect
any
> forage losses since then.
>
> I may have to look further back for his other two corps strengths.
>
> Mark had a total of $12 and 11mp remaining from December and posted no
> reinforcements and spent $0 for supply from Jan-Mar so I'm going to assume
> nothing was built in December and everything was saved since I will apply
no
> reinforcements to his forces.
>
> After applying the -$4 and -1mp deficit from March, that will leave $8 and
> 10mp saved from the March Econ. Nothing will be built for the March Econ
> also and EM will be set to 0.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Mel
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 6:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [eia] updated map
>
>
> > > Are Economics publically posted or kept private?
> >
> > Income is publically posted, but expenditures are private.
> >
> > > Even with a failed economic loss roll, loss of Masovia and +1 economic
> > > manipulation, Prussia should get +1 manpower. Anyone know if Prussia
had
> > > any
> > > saved manpower?
> > >
> > > With a failed economic loss roll, no Masovia, no subsidies and normal
> > > trade
> > > (domestic & US), Prussia would of had $29 income. Maintenance for
what's
> > > on
> > > the map would be -$6 leaving about $23 left for builds (if any) and
> > > treasury.
> >
> > Prussia is not currently receiving domestic trade, and had done Economic
> > Manipulation of +2 PP/-$21/-10 mp for March.  Mark never sent in a March
> > econ phase, but here's what we thought we would have seen happen:
> >
> > 4 Victory points.
> > Prussia's base $33 and 17 mp is reduced to $17/9 mp for Economic Loss.
> > American trade raises this to $23/9 mp.
> > Economic Manipulation (+2 PP/-$21/-10 mp) brings Prussia's total income
to
> > $2/-1 mp.
> >
> > Maintenance:
> > Prussia:  6 corps = $6 maintenance.
> > (So unless Prussia has at least $4 saved up from previous turns, or can
> get
> > loan money, this is where the country would go bankrupt.)
> > PSD Adjustment:  +2, to either the highest box in the Instability Zone,
or
> > if Prussia went bankrupt, to the highest "4" box.
> >
> > > Saxony & Hesse each would of built 1i factor.
> >
> > Russia just ceded Hesse to Prussia in March, and so I handled its
> economics.
> > Hesse purchased 2 I and the corps marker.
> >
> > > Did Prussia set any economic manipulation for next Econ?
> >
> > You can decide, since Mark never sent econ orders.  Economic
Manipulation
> is
> > a public announcement, though.
> >
> > > Anyway, for April reinforcements Prussia will remove all leaders.
> > > I can't adjust any corps strengths since I don't have any.
> > > Did anyone assist the Prussians with land movements or combats? If so,
> > > would
> > > they have any of the corp strengths?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mel
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [eia] updated map
> > >
> > >
> > >> >> Prussian corp strengths
> > >> >> Pending Prussian reinforcements
> > >> >> Prussian treasury
> > >>
> > >> We honestly don't know these for sure.  We can recreate some of this
by
> > >> looking at the battles from the last war Prussia fought (against
Russia
> > > and
> > >> Austria), but with the new baby and all I'm finding it hard to put
the
> > > time
> > >> together to do this.
> > >>
> > >> I do think it is safe to say that Prussia got just barely enough
money
> > > last
> > >> econ turn for maintenance (they failed an economic loss roll), and
due
> to
> > >> badly-timed economic manipulation, had no manpower coming in.  So
there
> > >> should probably be no reinforcements pending, and unless there were
> loans
> > >> from allies, no money in the Prussian treasury.  Not pretty.
> > >>
> > >> >> Alliances/Wars/Enforced Peace restrictions
> > >>
> > >> Prussia is allied to France (since early in the game) and Russia
(just
> > > since
> > >> March, 1807).  Is there a Prusso-Spanish alliance ?
> > >>
> > >> Prussia surrendered conditionally to Austria and Russia in  January,
> > >> 1807.
> > >> Conditions imposed by Russia were the ceding of Masovia province
> (Russia
> > >> chose not to take a minor country) and a 24-month enforced peace.
> > >> Austria
> > >> chose only a Royal Marriage.
> > >>
> > >> >> Optional/House Rules being used or not used.
> > >> >> Rule Agreements/Clarifications
> > >>
> > >> Am I right that we are using all optional rules this game ?  Somebody
> > >> help
> > >> me out with specifics about house rules.
> > >>
> > >> -JJY
> > >>
> > >>
>
>
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