Bill Jaffe on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:15:40 -0700 (MST)


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Re: [eia] updated map


Sounds OK with me...

Bill Jaffe
Wargaming since Tactics (1958), and playing 18xx since 1829
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-----Original Message-----
From: eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mel
Chin
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:56 AM
To: public list for an Empires in Arms game
Subject: Re: [eia] updated map

Guys,

I'm going to try and recreate the Prussians from the December Economics
forward.
I've checked the archives and I have the Blucher's corps strengths from
after the battle with the Russians (6G,15I,9C) and I'll take into affect any
forage losses since then.

I may have to look further back for his other two corps strengths.

Mark had a total of $12 and 11mp remaining from December and posted no
reinforcements and spent $0 for supply from Jan-Mar so I'm going to assume
nothing was built in December and everything was saved since I will apply no
reinforcements to his forces.

After applying the -$4 and -1mp deficit from March, that will leave $8 and
10mp saved from the March Econ. Nothing will be built for the March Econ
also and EM will be set to 0.

What do you think?

Mel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [eia] updated map


> > Are Economics publically posted or kept private?
>
> Income is publically posted, but expenditures are private.
>
> > Even with a failed economic loss roll, loss of Masovia and +1 economic
> > manipulation, Prussia should get +1 manpower. Anyone know if Prussia had
> > any
> > saved manpower?
> >
> > With a failed economic loss roll, no Masovia, no subsidies and normal
> > trade
> > (domestic & US), Prussia would of had $29 income. Maintenance for what's
> > on
> > the map would be -$6 leaving about $23 left for builds (if any) and
> > treasury.
>
> Prussia is not currently receiving domestic trade, and had done Economic
> Manipulation of +2 PP/-$21/-10 mp for March.  Mark never sent in a March
> econ phase, but here's what we thought we would have seen happen:
>
> 4 Victory points.
> Prussia's base $33 and 17 mp is reduced to $17/9 mp for Economic Loss.
> American trade raises this to $23/9 mp.
> Economic Manipulation (+2 PP/-$21/-10 mp) brings Prussia's total income to
> $2/-1 mp.
>
> Maintenance:
> Prussia:  6 corps = $6 maintenance.
> (So unless Prussia has at least $4 saved up from previous turns, or can
get
> loan money, this is where the country would go bankrupt.)
> PSD Adjustment:  +2, to either the highest box in the Instability Zone, or
> if Prussia went bankrupt, to the highest "4" box.
>
> > Saxony & Hesse each would of built 1i factor.
>
> Russia just ceded Hesse to Prussia in March, and so I handled its
economics.
> Hesse purchased 2 I and the corps marker.
>
> > Did Prussia set any economic manipulation for next Econ?
>
> You can decide, since Mark never sent econ orders.  Economic Manipulation
is
> a public announcement, though.
>
> > Anyway, for April reinforcements Prussia will remove all leaders.
> > I can't adjust any corps strengths since I don't have any.
> > Did anyone assist the Prussians with land movements or combats? If so,
> > would
> > they have any of the corp strengths?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mel
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [eia] updated map
> >
> >
> >> >> Prussian corp strengths
> >> >> Pending Prussian reinforcements
> >> >> Prussian treasury
> >>
> >> We honestly don't know these for sure.  We can recreate some of this by
> >> looking at the battles from the last war Prussia fought (against Russia
> > and
> >> Austria), but with the new baby and all I'm finding it hard to put the
> > time
> >> together to do this.
> >>
> >> I do think it is safe to say that Prussia got just barely enough money
> > last
> >> econ turn for maintenance (they failed an economic loss roll), and due
to
> >> badly-timed economic manipulation, had no manpower coming in.  So there
> >> should probably be no reinforcements pending, and unless there were
loans
> >> from allies, no money in the Prussian treasury.  Not pretty.
> >>
> >> >> Alliances/Wars/Enforced Peace restrictions
> >>
> >> Prussia is allied to France (since early in the game) and Russia (just
> > since
> >> March, 1807).  Is there a Prusso-Spanish alliance ?
> >>
> >> Prussia surrendered conditionally to Austria and Russia in  January,
> >> 1807.
> >> Conditions imposed by Russia were the ceding of Masovia province
(Russia
> >> chose not to take a minor country) and a 24-month enforced peace.
> >> Austria
> >> chose only a Royal Marriage.
> >>
> >> >> Optional/House Rules being used or not used.
> >> >> Rule Agreements/Clarifications
> >>
> >> Am I right that we are using all optional rules this game ?  Somebody
> >> help
> >> me out with specifics about house rules.
> >>
> >> -JJY
> >>
> >>


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