Re: [eia] [escrow] July 1806 Political Orders

["J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Mike's approach sounds reasonable to me.  And to answer Joel's question;
yes, the French could march through Posen this turn.  But according to
Mike's approach, once they leave the region defined by Masovia, Posen, East
and West Prussia, they cannot return without access from Prussia.

-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gorman" <mpgorman@xxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [eia] [escrow] July 1806 Political Orders


> I think Kyle's once you give access you can't get rid of it reading is a
> little harsher than the rules seem to read.  I think the return by their
> original course clause is meant to prevent a nation from isolating and
> destroying an ally's or neutral nation's armies without paying the price
of
> declaring war, but it's not supposed to be free reign to march all over
the
> other country until the end of the game.  Here's my proposal for a more
> balanced reading of the clause.
>
> If an access agreement is rescinded or amended to a more restrictive
> status, armies in positions attained under the old agreement that are no
> longer attainable under the new one have a single use of the old agreement
> to reach a sustainable position.  A single use would mean voluntarily
> entering and exiting the now off limits area once.
>
> So, Napoleon already being in Prussia has already used his entrance into a
> now off limits part of Prussia and once he voluntarily exits the region of
> Prussia no longer under access agreement, he can't return.  He could
choose
> to use this to invade Austria, return to invading Russia, heading into the
> western part of Prussia he still has voluntary access to or he could just
> hang out in the region and try to beat up cossacks and Russian troops
until
> they all go away, but once he leaves the area no longer covered under the
> current access agreement, he can't return without a new agreement from
Prussia.
>
> This way you can't turn around and let someone pass through your nation
and
> then slam the door and laugh without having taken an action that is an act
> of war, but at the same time you have some power to regain control of your
> own borders if a political situation changes and you no longer want the
> terms you offered another country but you don't dislike them so much
you're
> willing to fight a war over it.
>
>
> Yes, this reading has soft spots but it seems to me like a good guiding
> principle and I think the soft spots should only rarely lead to
disagreements.
>
>
> Mike
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