Re: [eia] [escrow] July 1806 Political Orders

["Bill Jaffe" <billj@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with this approach, I don't think cutting off a former ally's army
without a war declaration should be allowed.

Bill Jaffe
Wargaming since Tactics (1958), and playing 18xx since 1829
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From: eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Michael Gorman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [eia] [escrow] July 1806 Political Orders

I think Kyle's once you give access you can't get rid of it reading is a 
little harsher than the rules seem to read.  I think the return by their 
original course clause is meant to prevent a nation from isolating and 
destroying an ally's or neutral nation's armies without paying the price of 
declaring war, but it's not supposed to be free reign to march all over the 
other country until the end of the game.  Here's my proposal for a more 
balanced reading of the clause.

If an access agreement is rescinded or amended to a more restrictive 
status, armies in positions attained under the old agreement that are no 
longer attainable under the new one have a single use of the old agreement 
to reach a sustainable position.  A single use would mean voluntarily 
entering and exiting the now off limits area once.

So, Napoleon already being in Prussia has already used his entrance into a 
now off limits part of Prussia and once he voluntarily exits the region of 
Prussia no longer under access agreement, he can't return.  He could choose 
to use this to invade Austria, return to invading Russia, heading into the 
western part of Prussia he still has voluntary access to or he could just 
hang out in the region and try to beat up cossacks and Russian troops until 
they all go away, but once he leaves the area no longer covered under the 
current access agreement, he can't return without a new agreement from
Prussia.

This way you can't turn around and let someone pass through your nation and 
then slam the door and laugh without having taken an action that is an act 
of war, but at the same time you have some power to regain control of your 
own borders if a political situation changes and you no longer want the 
terms you offered another country but you don't dislike them so much you're 
willing to fight a war over it.


Yes, this reading has soft spots but it seems to me like a good guiding 
principle and I think the soft spots should only rarely lead to
disagreements.


Mike

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