Re: [eia] voluntary access

["J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

OK, then, I'll state more specific conditions for my voluntary access to
Austria, Prussia, Spain, and Turkey:

1.)  Access is to last so long as:
     a.)  The power is allied to Great Britain.
     b.)  The power is not allied with France.

2.)  Powers are not granted access into ports which contain a fleet or
fleets of that power's enemies, if those enemy fleets belong to an ally of
Great Britain.

God Save the King !
-JJY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:08 AM
Subject: [eia] voluntary access


> > From: britain@xxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Fri 08 Aug 2003 03:25:47
> >
> >
> > The Austrian Empire and Kingdom of Prussia are granted unlimited access
to
> > all British-controlled territories until further notice.
> >
>
>     After having read a few access agreements that are worded in this way,
I
> feel compelled to remind everyone of a very important rule regarding
limited
> access:  it cannot be rescinded!  10.3.1.2.1 (General Access Rules)
states,
> "Once inside another's province or controlled minor country, the voluntary
> access permission to be there may not be rescinded (unless war between the
> major power's [sic] negates the agreement)."
>     On the other hand, it is possible to limit access agreement *before*
> another power enters your territory.  10.3.1.2.2 (Voluntary Access
> Limitations) states, "Voluntary access permission might be limited....
> 'Conditional access' is also possible....  This is up to the players, who
> may wish to put the conditions in writing.  The player having access
*must*
> obey the conditions set.  The player through whose territory access is
> desired may set any conditions...."  (Since the players "must" obey the
> conditions set, I would think that putting the conditions in writing is a
> necessity rather than an option.  In fact, we have agreed that all access
> agreements and their conditions must be published for the whole group.)
>
>     On my reading of these rules, it is possible for a power to set a time
> limit as a condition of entry.  But this condition must be explicitly
stated
> *prior* to the entry of foreign forces.  Because once those forces are in
> your country, there is no way to kick them out (or change the conditions).
>
>     Anyway, I hope this is food for thought for all those countries who
are
> free and loose with voluntary access permission.  You should be aware that
> it may be trickier than you thought to get rid of an invited guest once he
> is in your country.  The best way to protect yourself is with very
specific
> access conditions.
>
> kdh
>
> P.S.  I don't think that "you'll leave whenever I say so" is a valid
> condition.  If it were, then what would be the point of making conditions?
>
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