Re: [eia] conquering the Kingdom of the 2 Sicilies

["J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

If a secondary district is never given to the conquerer of the primary
district, if the secondary district is already controlled by another power,
then must the secondary district _always_ be conquered separately ?  For
example, when GB declared war on Denmark/Norway, France got control of it.
When GB occupied Copenhagen for a turn, I was given control of Denmark and
Norway in the conquest step.  Was this a mistake ?

I took this rule to mean that if the secondary district was already
controlled by a power _different_ from the power controlling the primary
district (that is, if the primary and secondary districts are not under the
same government at the time), then the secondary district does not change
hands when the primary is conquered.

Otherwise, there would never be a situation when you would get control of
both districts during the conquest step.  But there are rules in place about
getting +1 PP _per district_ for conquering minor countries, etc.  So
clearly the rulemakers intended that you could conquer both districts by
occupying the primary capital.

I spoke to Kyle last night, and at that time he agreed with me.  Why have
you changed your position ?

-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] conquering the Kingdom of the 2 Sicilies


>     I was reading that rule to mean something different, but now I see how
> it could apply to this situation.  I agree with Joel, Spain would not lose
> control of Sicily.
>
> kdh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joel Uckelman" <uckelman@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [eia] conquering the Kingdom of the 2 Sicilies
>
>
> > Thus spake "Kyle H":
> > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > >
> > >     Hello all.  Yesterday, JJ alerted me to the fact that there may be
a
> =
> > > disagreement regarding what would happen if Turkey were to conquer =
> > > Naples.  After consulting 10.4 and 11.7, it is my opinion that if
Turkey
> =
> > > were to conquer Naples, Turkey would gain control of the entire
Kingdom
> =
> > > of the 2 Sicilies (both Naples and Sicily).  However, if Spanish
troops
> =
> > > remain in Palermo unbesieged, then Sicily would revert to Spanish =
> > > control at the end of the following turn.  (So there would be only one
=
> > > turn during which Sicily was officially under Turkish control.)
> > >
> > >     Does anyone disagree with that interpretation?
> > >
> > > kdh
> >
> > I do. I think Spain would have continuous control of Sicily, due to
> > 10.4.3.1:
> >
> > "The control of a secondary district is not given to the controller of
the
> > major district if a secondary district is already controlled by a
> different
> > major power."
> >
> >
> > --
> > J.
> >
> >
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