RE: [eia] I still have a problem

[Danny Mount <mount.23@xxxxxxx>]

I just received word that Spain's King released a statement today saying
they are SATISFIED.
-DEM





-----Original Message-----
From: eia-admin@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-admin@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kyle
H
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 12:03 PM
To: eia@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [eia] I still have a problem


    Thanks Jim.  So that issue is settled on a 4-3 vote.  Now the question
remains whether Spain had purchased an extra corps marker that they did not
place.  (Or alternatively, could Spain have placed the new Swedish corps in
Cartegena.)  If either or both of these conditions is satisfied, then the
Spanish declaration of war on Morocco stands.

kdh

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Helle" <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] I still have a problem


> Hmmm.  Well, per 4.2.2.3 it must be physically "possible for the declaring
> major power to enter the minor country's territory during the turn".  It
may
> have been unintentional on the part of the rules to exclude factors coming
> on the board, but the fact is that these forces were NOT excluded.
> Therefore by the letter of the rules, if not the spirit, it is my opinion
> that the DoW is legal.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 6:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [eia] I still have a problem
>
>
> >     So at this point we seem to be split right down the middle on this
> > issue.  JJ, Danny, and I are for having eligible corps on the map at the
> > time of the declaration.  Mike, Everett, and Joel are for simply having
> the
> > potential to produce a corps that could be placed in a position to make
it
> > eligible to attack.  I guess it's up to you Jim.  Which ruling do you
> > prefer?
> >
> > kdh
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Danny Mount" <mount.23@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 9:25 AM
> > Subject: RE: [eia] I still have a problem
> >
> >
> > > For my two sense, I agree with Mike that we should contact each other
> > before
> > > Political Orders are sent in so we don't get into an endless loop of
on
> > > again off again.
> > >
> > > As for the Declaration of War, I agree with JJ that our forces should
> > > already be on the map.  Again, I made the mistake of thinking that my
> > fleet
> > > could go to a city and pick up a corps and then move again.  My
mistake.
> > >
> > > -DEM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: eia-admin@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-admin@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > > Michael Gorman
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 12:54 AM
> > > To: eia@xxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [eia] I still have a problem
> > >
> > >
> > > At 06:21 PM 3/29/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >     Again, I don't care much about this and am willing to concede.
If
> > you
> > > >guys want to do combined movement separate from the escrow, I can
live
> > with
> > > >that.
> > > >
> > > >kdh
> > >
> > > I'm not entirely comfortable with the us too email, nor am I happy
with
> > > requiring Austria to combine with everyone Prussia combines with in
> order
> > > to combine with Prussia.  That Prussia didn't offer to combine with
> > Austria
> > > and has stated he meant to do that makes the current turn less
important
> > to
> > > me but I very much wanted Prussia and Austria to make their decision
> > > without knowing if I was combined with France.  If they can alter
their
> > > combined movement phase after knowing mine, then I would want to be
able
> > to
> > > alter mine after they alter theirs which in turn should allow them to
> > alter
> > > theirs after I alter mine in response to them altering theirs and so
> > > on.  We can get into an endless recursion of combined movement phases
if
> > > the results of knowing what someone else is doing will alter what you
> do.
> > >
> > > In this turn, if Austria and Prussia are not combined, I want to
combine
> > > with France.  If they are combined, I have to really think about it.
I
> > > took a shot at hoping Austria wouldn't risk going into instability and
> > > getting potentially screwed in an economic phase and would wait a turn
> to
> > > declare war.  They didn't wait, but their lack of combined movement is
> > very
> > > important to me.  If they can alter that after declaration, then I
want
> to
> > > be able to respond to that alteration and cannot really say they can't
> > > respond in kind.  So, depending on what their plans are, combined
> movement
> > > phase will continue forever if we allow changes after revealing
> > declaration.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
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