J.J. Young on 20 Nov 2002 03:54:03 -0000


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[eia] Siege of Amsterdam


(History Monkey reporting...)

As Kyle said, in Genoa the two British corps successfully withdrew without
casualties or pursuit.  In Amsterdam, the attacking French XI and Imperial
Guard corps (4 I, 1 C, 5 Gd - 4.5 morale) under Ney breached the defences
and fought against the British II corps (9 I - 4.5 morale).  In the first
round, the French inflicted -1 I and -.6 morale losses, and suffered -2 I
and -2.8 morale damage in return.  In the second round, the French
inflicted -1 I and -2.2 morale on the British, but Ney suffered -2 I
and -2.8 morale and his army broke and resumed the siege.

As a result, Britain went up +1 PP to the 13 box.

-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] Battle & seige


>     Tonight, JJ and I resolved our limited field battle at Genoa and our
> siege battle at Amsterdam.  Both of them went as poorly for me as they
could
> possibly go.  (British forces successfully withdrew from Genoa - even
though
> each corps rolled separately.  And JJ rolled double-sixes in the siege
> battle to break me in 2 rounds.)
>     JJ will send you all the details, I'm sure, but the general results
are
> that one French corps at Amsterdam gets absorbed into the other, GB gets
+1
> political point for winning a siege battle, the British at Genoa withdrew
to
> Turin, the French depot there was burned and its garrison retired into the
> city.
>     So now GB is up, followed by Spain.  Then we'll finally be done with
> this turn!
>
> kdh
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [eia] Battle & seige
>
>
> > This is perfectly fine with me.
> >
> > -JJY
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [eia] Battle & seige
> >
> >
> > >     Thanks for helping me resolve my concerns about resolving battles
> with
> > > escrow+pbm.  I think you (Mike, Joel, and JJ) have all found
acceptable
> > > solutions to my worries about the use of Outflank.  Mike and Joel make
> > good
> > > points about withdrawals, though.  However, I think this is a small
> price
> > to
> > > pay for the convenience of the escrow+pbm system.
> > >     So, in conclusion, our general procedure for conducting battles
will
> > be
> > > as follows (unless the players involved make other arrangements):
> > >
> > > 1.  Establish an escrow for chit choice.
> > > 2.  If choosing Outflank, list the corps that make up the pinning
force
> > and
> > > the corps that make up the flanking force.
> > > 3.  Once chits have been revealed and withdrawals have been resolved,
> > reveal
> > > the exact compositions of the pinning and flanking forces (if
> necessary).
> > >
> > > Pretty simple.  Am I missing anything?
> > >
> > > kdh
> > >
> > >
> > > > >This occurred to me when conducting my last battle, and I worried
> about
> > > it
> > > > >until I realized that there's an easy way to handle Outflank. If
> you're
> > > > >going to outflank, divide your forces when you make your chit
> > selection.
> > > > >The only situation in which this would reveal more information than
> > > > >resolving a battle in realtime is in the event of a successful
> > > withdrawal,
> > > > >as the reveal forces step is after the withdrawal step. Is this an
> > > > >acceptable solution?
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > >
> > > >          I came to the same conclusion as I was also considering an
> > > > outflank in the battle between Russia and Turkey this turn.  I had
> > simply
> > > > decided I would tack on my split with the chit choice.  To moderate
> the
> > > > impact should a withdrawal be chosen, I figure you can identify
> flanking
> > > > and pinning forces by corps rather than give strength details.  It
> still
> > > > reveals information if people have kept up with corps strength, but
as
> > > > corps in the same location can exchange forces invisibly every
> > > > reinforcement phase, the information can rapidly become outdated.
> > > >          Strength details can then be revealed normally in the
reveal
> > > > forces phase.
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > >
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