Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Renumbering CFIs

[Daniel Lepage <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Jul 23, 2004, at 5.06 PM, athena@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:40:18PM -0400, Bryan Donlan wrote:
> > I propose:
> > {{
> > __Renumbering CFIs__
> >
> > Replace section I of rule 126 with:
> > {{
> > I. Definition
> > If players disagree about the legality of an action or the
> > interpretation or application of a rule or set of rules, any player
> > may submit a Call for Inquiry to decide the issue. A Call for Inquiry
> > may also be referred to as a CFI or CFJ.
> > CFIs are revisable objects, but may only be modified as explictly
> > permitted by the rules. However, CFIs are numbered seperately from
> > other revisable objects, with each new CFI receiving a serial number
> > one higher than the last serial number assigned to a CFI, or 1 if no
> > CFI had previously been submitted since CFIs began to be numbered
> > seperately.
> > }}
> > }}
>
> I'm not sure I understand this whole separate renumbering movement.
> Currently, the Historical Documents page can summon forth game objects 
> by
> number. If I put in 200, I get prop 200. If I put in 300, I get rule
> 300. If I put in 444, I get CFJ 444. Now that we have separately
> numbered proposals, and maybe CFJs, we can no longer do this. How are 
> we
> supposed to search the archives for these newly numbered CFJs and 
> props?
>
> Also, with this prop, the next CFJ will be numbered 1, then 2, then 3,
> and sooner or later 133. But we already have a CFJ 133, so this is a 
> Bad
> Idea.

The idea behind renumbering was that then things could be delegated 
easily. For example, I could designate somebody to be Minister of 
Proposals or something, and e'd be able to track proposals using 
whatever system e wants, without needing to worry about other things. 
Under the current system, eir system would have to somehow query and 
alter the main database, because both systems would need to know the 
numbers of objects.

That said, the wiki-based proposal system does break the Historical 
Docs page, and doesn't have a good means of tracking revision numbers 
(it can't distinguish between a typo fix and a new revision).

If you'd rather use the old tracking system with its Historical Docs 
page, then propose to put the numbers back, and I'll start working on a 
way to let everyone submit props to the database without me needing to 
enter them all.

It would help if we used a wiki on bnomic.org instead of in a different 
account; I'm working on getting MoinMoin working (under mod_python, 
too, so it should be faster) at www.bnomic.org/Bwiki ; I've copied over 
much of the content from the real wiki but not all, and there are still 
a few installation bugs that need to be worked out (some copied things 
have bad data, things like references to "/home/wonko/wiki/data/text" 
instead of the corresponding directory on bnomic.org.

--
Wonko

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