Re: [s-d] [s-b] Consultation

[Ed Murphy <emurphy42@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

ais523 wrote:

> Thinking about this, there is only one real point of contention here,
> which is whether a forum counts as reasonably accessible if it could be
> reasonably accessed by a PEP who knows its location, or whether the
> required standard is of a forum which can be reasonably accessed by a
> PEP with no information at all.

Or (as in the MD5 case) with incomplete information that would require
lots of effort to complete.

> One argument that requiring knowledge of
> the location is reasonable is that many of B's Public Displays require
> knowledge of their location to access; a player who does not know the
> location of the wiki would have a hard time determining what the rules
> are, and yet it is not all that common to post the location of the wiki
> here on the lists.

It is, however, reasonably common to post wiki URLs.

> For instance, suppose that the Emergency Forum was, in fact, s-d. I hope
> nobody would argue that s-d is not, in fact, reasonably accessible.
> However, nobody has explicitly said that s-d is the Emergency Forum!
> Would that cause it to suddenly /cease/ to be reasonably accessible,
> just because its locations weren't given?

Yes, because "reasonably" is defined in context, specifically PEPs
knowing enough to intentionally send messages to the EF.  If they
don't know enough, then it's not reasonable, whether the would-be
EF happens to be something@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx or s-d or even s-b.

> The only logical conclusion is that whether a forum is accessible or not
> exists independently of any emergency. The Emergency Forum is in fact
> reasonably accessible (more so than s-d, in fact, as it does not require
> subscription to post messages). It was before the Emergency started, and
> still is, and barring technical glitches will remain so all Emergency
> (although this is another loophole, by the way). The mere fact of
> designating it as the EF does not cause it to cease to be accessible.

This omits "reasonably" in a couple of places, and we've agreed that the
whole thing hinges on that qualifier.
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