Jay Campbell on Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:02:58 -0700 (MST)


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Re: [s-d] [s-b] Must a contract be meaningful to be valid?


Ed Murphy wrote:
> Jay Campbell wrote:
>
>   
>> There is no claim this document forms a corporation, so there are fewer 
>> challenges than last time.
>>
>> But, teucer, you are bound by this contract until such time as you prove 
>> it contains a provision to allow you to cease to be bound by it. Nor may 
>> you edit the contract. It is not a corporation, so you are not able to 
>> act on behalf of it.
>>
>> My guess is this is some pre-20th century cipher that when unwound with 
>> the appropriate key (or maybe just an algorithm) says "teucer may leave 
>> this contract".
>>
>>
>> Craig Daniel wrote:
>>     
>>> As a follow-up to explorations with Epimenides, I submit the following
>>> contract, entitled "lhret rhlhr":
>>>
>>> {lhret rhlhr wjehl lryaj klher awjhye lewlj kralk jsaer yhkjl rebgl
>>> aeryl ghkao iusdo ixzjd ewlho izgei ogqoi ugewo iagok dsabj vbiua
>>> euiog uaoig jeaug utoai gxugi bxjah gegoy uioqi wqpre}
>>>       
>
> The obvious rearrangement reveals no obvious obfuscated meaning:
>
> lrwlkalkjyragiieiouidveujugbguw
> hhjrlwersheehuxwzggasbuaetxxeiq
> rleyhjwaakbrkszlgqegaiioaoujgop
> ehhaehllejgyadjheowobuoiuagaoqr
> trljryjkrllloodoiiokjagggiihyie
>
> nor does rot13 help matters any:
>
> yuerg euyue jwruy yelnw xyure njwulr yrjyw xenyx wfnre luxwy eroty
> nrely tuxnb vhfqb vkmwq rjyub vmtrv btdbv htrjb vntbx qfnow iovhn
> rhvbt hnbvt wrnht hgbnv tkhtv okwnu trtbl hvbdv jdcer
>
> yejyxnyxwlentvvrvbhvqirhwhtothj
> uuweyjrefurruhkjmttnfohnrgkkrvd
> eyrluwjnnxoexfmytdrtnvvbnbhwtbc
> ruunruyyrwtlnqwurbjbohbvhntnbde
> geywelwxeyyybbqbvvbxwntttvvulvr
>   

Let's assume it's a straight substitution cypher. Letter frequency of 
the text, in alphabetic then occurrence order:

a 13 b 4 d 3 e 14 g 13 h 10 i 13 j 10 k 6 l 12 o 12 p 1 q 3 r 10 s 3 t 2 
u 9 v 1 w 6 x 3 y 5 z 2
e 14 g 13 i 13 a 13 l 12 o 12 j 10 h 10 r 10 u 9 k 6 w 6 y 5 b 4 x 3 d 3 
s 3 q 3 t 2 z 2 p 1 v 1

English letters by normal order of frequency: e t a o i n s h r d l c u 
m w f g y p b v k j x q z

Assuming one of these letters is a space, only a few potential letters 
cause holes in enough spots to break it into word-length segments:

a: lrwlk lkjyr giieiouidveujugbguwhhjrlwersheehuxwzgg sbu 
etxxeiqrleyhjw  kbrkszlgqeg iio oujgopehh ehllejgy djheowobuoiu g 
oqrtrljryjkrllloodoiiokj gggiihyie

e: lrwlkalkjyragii iouidv ujugbguwhhjrlw rsh  huxwzggasbua txx iqrl 
yhjwaakbrkszlgq gaiioaoujgop hha hll jgyadjh 
owobuoiuagaoqrtrljryjkrllloodoiiokjagggiihyi (padding garbage at the end?)

o: lrwlkalkjyragiiei 
uidveujugbguwhhjrlwersheehuxwzggasbuaetxxeiqrleyhjwaakbrkszlgqegaii a 
ujg pehhaehllejgyadjhe w bu iuaga qrtrljryjkrlll  d ii kjagggiihyie 
(padding at beginning?)

g: lrwlkalkjyra iieiouidveuju b uwhhjrlwersheehuxwz  
asbuaetxxeiqrleyhjwaakbrkszl qe aiioaouj opehhaehllej yadjheowobuoiua 
aoqrtrljryjkrllloodoiiokja   iihyie


I don't, however, see the 2nd and 5th letters of any of these chunks 
match, so "teucer" isn't mentioned if this was the right method.

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