Jamie Dallaire on Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:36:51 -0700 (MST) |
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Re: [s-d] [s-b] Consultation: Dominov > ALL? |
Oh... You know what, you're right. I don't know how I convinced myself otherwise. When I read your last post I indignantly headed to the ruleset to copy-paste the passage that says "There is an attribute "score", blablabla" but it just wasn't there... My consultation is unworthy :-( BP On 1/2/08, Geoffrey Spear <geoffspear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Points are not defined as an Attribute; they're generic game objects > which can be possessed by other Objects. > > On Jan 2, 2008 6:26 PM, Jamie Dallaire <bad.leprechaun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Properties are Game Objects too. Points are an Attribute, which usually > > should have a default value according to the rules. This particular > > attribute does not have a default value. > > > > Properties, on the other hand, are more like On/Off type mechanisms, the > way > > I understand them. You can have different values of an attribute (0, 1, > 15, > > 1234) but when it comes to properties, you either have them or you don't > > (Inactive, Alive, Cursed, the specific title or body of a proposal, > etc.). > > > > BP > > > > > > On 1/2/08, Geoffrey Spear <geoffspear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 2, 2008 6:18 PM, Jamie Dallaire <bad.leprechaun@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > I submit the following Consultation: > > > > > > > > { > > > > As of the time at which this Consultation is submitted, at an > exchange > > > rate > > > > of 5 mackerel for 1 point, would it be possible for the Player named > > > Dominov > > > > to exchange all of his points for exactly 500 mackerel? > > > > > > > > Reasoning: The above exchange would necessitate 100 points. I submit > > > that > > > > Dominov has AT LEAST 28 points. Because the rules do not provide a > > > default > > > > score for any game object, the number of points that Dominov had > upon > > > > joining the game is undefined. As such, and regardless of game > custom, > > > it is > > > > just as valid to assume that Dominov started with 72 points as it is > to > > > > assume that e started with 0 points. Rule 17 states that score > cannot be > > > > negative, and we can state with confidence that Dominov now has 28 > > > points > > > > more than e started with. The number of points e currently holds > cannot > > > be > > > > precisely defined, but it lies somewhere between 28 and positive > > > infinity. > > > > This interval includes 100. Also note that Dominov became a Player > > > shortly > > > > AFTER the Public Display of points was ratified by Wooble's Refresh > > > > Proposal, during nweek 135. > > > > } > > > > > > > > Billy Pilgrim > > > > > > I don't believe a Player can come to possess any Game Object without > > > first gaining it. Since a new Player has never been given any Points, > > > I don't see how he could have any. > > > > > > Now, if Points were a Property of Players, I could buy your argument. > > > > > > -- > > > Geoffrey Spear > > > http://www.geoffreyspear.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > spoon-discuss mailing list > > > spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx > > > http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/spoon-discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > spoon-discuss mailing list > > spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx > > http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/spoon-discuss > > > > > > -- > Geoffrey Spear > http://www.geoffreyspear.com/ > _______________________________________________ > spoon-discuss mailing list > spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx > http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/spoon-discuss > _______________________________________________ spoon-discuss mailing list spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/spoon-discuss