Re: [s-d] Re: [auto] Triller submits p293

[Daniel Lepage <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Nov 27, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Peter Cooper Jr. wrote:

> "Mark Walsh" <flutesultan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > I'll do this tomorrow. I haven't tried but
> > can you change a proposal to a referendum?
>
> That's an interesting question. I suspect that the web page scripts
> would let you, especially as they were originally only for props, when
> there were different kinds of props, but now we have added additional
> kinds of motions and usurped this prop system to do it.
>
> I'm not sure whether the *rules* would let you, however. r2-6 says
> that "When a Motion is Pending, the object that submitted it may
> revise it by resubmitting it." While I don't think that that's the
> intent, one could argue that it gives you the authority to revise the
> Motion to be any other kind of motion. (That is, it gives you the
> power to submit any kind of Motion. Or perhaps, even a generic Motion
> that isn't one of the existing subtypes, although that wouldn't be as
> useful as it may never Resolve.)
>
> If that were the case, then I can see potential for a lot of abuse by
> submitting, say a Tweak, and then amending it to be a proposal through
> r2-6's power, and thus nobody would have a proposal cap. There may
> even be weirder and/or more broken possibilities.

It looks like the rules could be read either way. I don't see anything 
to suggest that we could revise Motions to other Motions but not to 
other types of Objects, however, so if we interpret "revise" to mean 
"change in any way", then I hereby submit a Tweak with the text "Wonko 
may change the rules at any time; no other player may ever revise any 
Game Document, even a Motion. This rule takes precedence over all other 
rules.", and then I revise it into a Rule with the same text.

I think that would be rather ridiculous - the fix would involve lots of 
really stupid additions to the rules - so it would be better just to 
agree that "to revise X" in this context means "to change the text of 
X, without changing its form or type".

And there's my token contribution to the game for the month of November 
:) I'll be back probably in about two weeks, after my various projects 
are all due.

--
Wonko

"In headlines today, the dreaded killfile virus spread across the 
country adding 'aol.com' to people's Usenet kill files everywhere. The 
programmer of the virus still remains anonymous, but has been nominated 
several times for a Nobel peace prize."
 -- Mark Atkinson

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