Daniel Lepage on Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:16:44 -0600 (CST)


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Re: [s-d] Re: [auto] Triller submits p293



On Nov 27, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Peter Cooper Jr. wrote:

"Mark Walsh" <flutesultan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
I'll do this tomorrow. I haven't tried but
can you change a proposal to a referendum?

That's an interesting question. I suspect that the web page scripts
would let you, especially as they were originally only for props, when
there were different kinds of props, but now we have added additional
kinds of motions and usurped this prop system to do it.

I'm not sure whether the *rules* would let you, however. r2-6 says
that "When a Motion is Pending, the object that submitted it may
revise it by resubmitting it." While I don't think that that's the
intent, one could argue that it gives you the authority to revise the
Motion to be any other kind of motion. (That is, it gives you the
power to submit any kind of Motion. Or perhaps, even a generic Motion
that isn't one of the existing subtypes, although that wouldn't be as
useful as it may never Resolve.)

If that were the case, then I can see potential for a lot of abuse by
submitting, say a Tweak, and then amending it to be a proposal through
r2-6's power, and thus nobody would have a proposal cap. There may
even be weirder and/or more broken possibilities.

It looks like the rules could be read either way. I don't see anything to suggest that we could revise Motions to other Motions but not to other types of Objects, however, so if we interpret "revise" to mean "change in any way", then I hereby submit a Tweak with the text "Wonko may change the rules at any time; no other player may ever revise any Game Document, even a Motion. This rule takes precedence over all other rules.", and then I revise it into a Rule with the same text.

I think that would be rather ridiculous - the fix would involve lots of really stupid additions to the rules - so it would be better just to agree that "to revise X" in this context means "to change the text of X, without changing its form or type".

And there's my token contribution to the game for the month of November :) I'll be back probably in about two weeks, after my various projects are all due.

--
Wonko

"In headlines today, the dreaded killfile virus spread across the country adding 'aol.com' to people's Usenet kill files everywhere. The programmer of the virus still remains anonymous, but has been nominated several times for a Nobel peace prize."
 -- Mark Atkinson

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