Raelus on Wed, 18 May 2005 19:34:33 -0500 (CDT)


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Re: [s-d] Proto-prop 

Alex Truelsen wrote:
Well, Magic is the only one I'm familiar with. I've tried not to use all of the same terms for things here where possible (cantrips/spells vs. instants/sorceries, for example), and names can be changed. Also, if you want to steer away from that sort of thing, then create a third edition set of rules and steer us away. I certainly won't reject an idea because it isn't Magic, I'm just not entirely sure how else to run a CCG. 

[[BvS]]

On 5/18/05, eugman@xxxxxxxxxxx <eugman@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My question to you is do we want to be making a clone of Mtg or do we want to make something more original? Just askin...
So I was thinking about the card game we now have and some ways to 
improve
it a little - mostly I'm trying to make the cards less wieldy by 
defining
certain types of cards and more basic actions that can be referred to on 
the

cards. Anyway, here's what I have so far, as well as all of the current
cards modified to do basically the same things they do now, but phrased
differently. The idea is that the First Edition cards are still usable, 
but

not as good as Beta.
I'm not proposing this now because there are other props to modify Cards 
on
the table and I don't want to get strange interactions. Better to wait 
until

voting starts and see what needs tweaking then. Also I want to make sure
people like my ideas here. So, here it is.

== Proto-Prop: CCG edit ==

{{
Change the first sentence of Rule 1-3 of the Collectable Cards Rulebook 
to

read:
{{
Players may be Card Players. Players are initially not Card Players.
}}

Amend Rule 2-1 of the Collectable Cards Rulebook to read:
{{
Cards have the following properties:

Rarity - Rarity is a positive integer between 1 and 5, inclusive.
Type/Subtype - Cards have a type, which is either Action or Thing. Cards 
may

also have one of the following subtypes, which may be

used in place of their type:

Action subtypes:
* Cantrip - Instants can be used at any time.
* Spell - Spells can only be used during their owner's turn.

Thing subtypes:
* Creature - Creatures may perform one action per round. Actions include
attacking, blocking, and any action defined by the

creature's card. Attacks can only be made during the main phase of the
creature's controller. If an attacking creature is not
blocked, it is destroyed and the defending player loses one Power Gem. 
If an

attacking creature is blocked, both attacker and blocker

are destroyed.
* Wall - Walls are similar to creatures except that they cannot block.
* Artifact - The actions performed by artifacts are defined by the 
artifact.

Artifacts may not attack or block.
* Battery - Batteries are any Thing that generates AP. Batteries may not
attack or block.
* Enchantment - Enchantments are played on other Things and affect those
Things.

Action Points - Actions Points may also be called AP. AP is a positive
integer.

Set - A card may belong to a certain set of cards.
Text - The text of a card is a game document outlining any effects the 
card

has. Cards may not affect the gamestate outside of

Playing the Game of Cards.
}}

Add the following items to Rule 7-3 of the Collectable Cards Rulebook:
{{
Destroy - If the effects of one card include destroying another, all
"destroyed" cards are moved into the discard pile of the player

who owns them.
Sacrifice - Things may be sacrificed as part of the cost or activation 
cost

of another card. When a Thing is sacrificed, it is

destroyed.
Controller - The controller of a card is the player who has the ability 
to

use that card.
Owner - The owner of a card is the player whose deck contains the card. 
When

a Thing is destroyed, it goes to its owner's discard

pile.
}}
Remove the text "If e owns more than five Power Gems at any time, Eir 
Power

Gems are destroyed until e has five Power Gems." from

rule 7-6 of the Collectable Cards Rulebook.
Create a new Set of Cards named "Beta Edition" with the following cards 
in

it:
{{
{{
= Battery of Fire =

Rarity - 1

Type - Battery

Action Points - 1

Set - Beta Edition

Text - Destroy this card: You may use one more AP than usual this turn.
}}

{{
= Battery of Ice =

Rarity - 1

Type - Battery

Action Points - 1

Set - Beta Edition

Text - Destroy this card: You may use one more AP than usual this turn.
}}

{{
= Frying Pan =

Rarity - 1

Type - Artifact

Action Points - 4

Set - Beta Edition
Text - At the beginning of your turn, roll a six-sided die. If the 
result is

six, destroy a Power Gem.
}}

{{
= Grunt =

Rarity - 1

Type - Creature

Action Points - 3

Set - Beta Edition
Text - When Grunt attacks, roll a two-sided die. On a 1, sacrifice 
Grunt.

}}

{{
= Time Flux =

Rarity - 1

Type - Spell

Action Points - 2

Set - Beta Edition

Text - Return a card from your discard pile to your hand.
}}

{{
= Adapt =

Rarity - 2

Type - Cantrip

AP - 3

Set - Beta Edition

Text - You may do one of the following: Draw a card, force a player to
discard a card, or destroy a Thing.
}}

{{
= Blank Tile =

Rarity - 2

Type - Cantrip

Action Points - 3

Set - Beta Edition

Text - Target player draws a card.
}}

{{
= Fireball =

Rarity - 2

Type - Spell

Action Points - 2

Set - Beta Edition
Text - Sacrifice one Battery of Fire when you play this card. Destroy 
one

Power Gem.
}}

{{
= Maelstrom =

Rarity - 2

Type - Enchantment

Action Points - 3

Set - Beta Edition

Text - Target Thing is unable to perform any actions.
}}

{{
= Giant Anime Robot =

Rarity - 3

Type - Creature

Action Points - 4

Set - Beta Edition
Text - All players' maximum hand size is decreased by one. 4 AP, 
sacrifice a

Thing: Destroy an opponent's Power Gem. Destroy this

card if it has destroyed more than one Power Gem.
}}

{{
= Ice Wall =

Rarity - 3

Type - Wall

Action Points - 3

Set - Beta Edition

Text - Sacrifice one Battery of Ice when you play this card. Sacrifice:
Prevent the destruction of one Power Gem.
}}

{{
= Reign of Ice =

Rarity - 3

Type - Artifact

Action Points - 5

Set - Beta Edition
Text - Sacrifice one Battery of Ice when you play this card. Cards 
costing

more than 4 AP to play cannot be played.
}}

{{
= Mind Control =

Rarity - 4

Type - Spell

Action Points - 4

Set - Beta Edition

Text - Gain control of target Thing.
}}

{{
= Raelus the Unforgiven =

Rarity - 4

Type - Hero

Action Points - 5

Set - Beta Edition
Text - You may use one less AP each turn. Use 3 AP: Opponent discards 
one

card of eir choice.
}}

{{
= Reign of Fire =

Rarity - 4

Type - Artifact

Action Points - 5

Set - Beta Edition
Text - Sacrifice one Battery of Fire when you play this card. Cards 
costing

less than 3 AP to play cannot be played.
}}

{{
= DimShip =

Rarity - 5

Type - Artifact

Action Points - 7

Set - Beta Edition

Text - Your maximum hand size is increased by one. 5 AP: The space-time
continuum is nearly ripped apart. Destroy all Things in play.
}}

{{
= Orb of Life Giving =

Rarity - 5

Type - Spell

Action Points - 7

Set - Beta Edition

Text - Gain one Power Gem.
}}
}}
}}

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I think that after the rules are updated with better definitions, the game itself is fine, and the only thing missing is actual cards. Be creative. If you want to create something more magic-esque, make it a subset of the game or something. 
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