Glotmorf on Tue, 10 Aug 2004 04:34:07 -0500 (CDT)

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[s-d] Ballot Commentary

I suppose it's a tad late for comments, but...

On 9 Aug 2004 at 10:28, Daniel Peter Lepage wrote:

> 1891/1: Pick and Choose
> Standard Proposal
> Proposed by Wonko on nday 6, nweek 67.
> IRV is a Selection Method. In an election using IRV, a legal vote is a
> list of all the choices, ranked in an order of the Voter's choosing.
> The choices are then eliminated, one by one, by repeatedly eliminating
> the choice which ranked highest on the fewest number of votes, and
> then removing that choice from each of the votes (so that those who
> ranked it highest have their votes transferred to their second
> choice). If there are multiple such choices, and removing them would
> not remove all remaining choices, then all of them are eliminated
> simultaneously.
> If this results in all but one choice being eliminated, then that
> choice is Selected by the election. Otherwise, the Moderator selects
> one of the winning choices to be Selected by the election. }}

If I'm reading this right, it's possible for two of a 
collection of choices to be selected equally as the first 
choice, and for both of them to be eliminated since they are 
equal on "fewest number of votes" and some choices would 
remain.  In fact, looking further, if one choice was the 
unanimous first pick, it too would be ranked highest on the 
"fewest" number of votes.

Perhaps some provision should somehow be made for 
circumstances in which the "fewest" and the most are 

> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1892/1: Let's do it right
> Standard Proposal
> Proposed by Wonko on nday 5, nweek 67.
> Replace the text of rule 625, section B [[Ministers -> Ministerial
> elections]] with: {{ __Ministerial Elections__
> Any player may start an Election for any Open Ministry as a Game
> Action, provided that the Ministry has been Open for at least five
> ndays and there is not already an Election in progress for that
> Ministry; that player may also specify a Selection Method.
> Kurt Godel may call such elections regardless of how many ndays have
> passed since the Ministry became open

Typo here...missing a period.  (And we don't want this 
proposal reproducing.)
> For five ndays following the start of an Election, players may
> Nominate other players or themselves to be Candidates in that
> Election. Players so Nominated may accept or reject their nominations;
> those that accept become candidates in the election. After these five
> ndays have passed, the Election enters the Voting phase, and an
> Election is called. This Elections has all players as Eligible Voters,
> four ndays as its Duration, the candidates as the choices, the
> Selection Method specified by the player who called the election as
> its Selection Method (or Borda Count if the caller didn't specify),
> and the player who called the election as its Moderator. }}
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1895/1: Shenanigans
> Standard Proposal
> Proposed by Wonko on nday 5, nweek 67.
> __Judges__
> For each CFI, there is a set of Eligible Judges. All members of the
> Upper House are Eligible for a CFI except the Plaintiff and the
> Defendant of that CFI. If this means that fewer than two players are
> Eligible Judges, then members of the Middle Ground are Eligible Judges
> as well, with the exception of the Plaintiff and the Defendant.

No provision is made for the possibility that both the Upper 
House and the Middle Ground are empty, or empty of all except 
the Plaintiff and Defendant.

> __Appeals__
> If a player believes that the judge of a CFI has issued a judgment on
> misinformation or has overlooked an important rule or fact, that
> player may Recall Shenanigans on that CFI (this may only be done after
> the CFI has been judged). This causes the CFI to be Remanded to the
> Upper House; the Upper House becomes the Judge of that CFI.
> For ten ndays after a CFI is Remanded to the Upper House, every player
> who was an Eligible Judge for that CFI at the time of Remanding may
> submit an Appellate Judgment on that CFI. These players are called the
> Appellate Judges. An Appellate judgment may be any of the allowed
> Judgments that an ordinary judge may make.

See above.  Unless it's desirable that there be no appeal 
available if there were no eligible judges.  But seeing as how 
there can be no judgment if there are no eligible judges, it 
wouldn't get as far as an appeal...

> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1896/0: Python Enterprises
> Standard Proposal
> Proposed by Zarpint on nday 4, nweek 67.
> There exists the Program List. This is a list of descriptions of
> programs or scripts that Players have requested. An entry on the
> list is called a Coil.
> Each Coil has the following attributes:
> Description, a precise description of the requested script, including
> the language the Patron would like the script in.
> Patron, the Player who posted the Coil.
> Bonus, the goodies that the first player to Wind the Coil receives.
> Any player may post a Coil to the Program List by making a statement
> to that effect in a Public Forum, provided that the Description is not
> trivial. [[This is a judgement call that may need to be decided by a
> Call for Judgement.]] Unless the Patron specifies otherwise, the Bonus
> is 10 points.
> The Patron of a Coil may modify or delete the Coil by posting a
> statement to that effect in a Public Forum.
> Any player may Wind any Coil on the list by posting a script to a
> Public Forum or privately sending a script to the Patron. If, in the
> sole judgement of the Patron, the script fits the Description, the
> Player who Wound the Coil receives 10 points, and the Coil is removed
> from the Program List.
> It is the responsibility of the Minister of the Roster to maintain the
> Program List.

This is a source of free money, by posting and winding trivial 


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