Glotmorf on Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:44:49 -0500 (CDT) |
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Re: Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [s-d]Roster Stuff |
On 16 Jul 2004 at 11:41, Daniel Peter Lepage wrote: > -----Original Message----- > > > Date: Fri Jul 16 11:25:47 EDT 2004 > > From: "Glotmorf" <dwhytock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [s-d]Roster Stuff > > To: "discussion list for B Nomic" <spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > On 16 Jul 2004 at 10:55, athena@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:31:56AM -0400, Daniel Peter Lepage > > > wrote: > Zarpint wrote: > > > You don't actually delete the fund > > > and other game objects, just the > > rules that declare their > > > existence. They probably still have some sort > > of nebulous > > > existence. > > I thought we'd had a CFI about such things, but I > > > can't find it in the archive. We did discuss it at one point, > > > though, and I believe we reached the conclusion that once an > > > object ceases to be defined by the rules it ceases to exist for > > > all intents and purposes. Specifically, the text of r13 makes it > > > clear that to be a Game Object, a thing must be described by the > > > rules, so repealing the defining rule causes a thing to cease to > > > be a Game Object. > > > > > > Not so clear to me. The object existed at one point. At no point > > > was it ever destroyed, though the Rules mentioning it were > > > repealed. There have been proposals that specifically deleted > > > objects after repealing the rules, suggesting that deleting the > > > rule doesn't delete the object. I'm not sure that it is no longer > > > a Game Object. > > > > There have been instances of "legacy" objects -- objects that > > existed long enough to get into players' possession, which > > meant they were part of the gamestate, and therefore, by > > Dave's interpretation, didn't go away just because the rule > > did. There was also an instance of something existing > > according to one version of a rule, the rule changing, and it > > being decided that the objects still belonged to the old rule > > rather than the new rule -- Wonko's "Stock Scam". > > I thought I lost that suit... the "Stock Scam" was when I bought a > billion shares of somebody's stock (Mithrandir, I think) for free > because e had no points and then sold them back at two BNS apiece > after giving em 11 points. Fairly sure you kept em. Surrendered them shortly thereafter, I think, but that's another matter. I think there was a revamping proposal that destroyed all existing BNS. Glotmorf ----- The Ivory Mini-Tower: a blog study in Social Technology. http://www.nomic.net/~dwhytock/imt _______________________________________________ spoon-discuss mailing list spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/spoon-discuss