Daniel Peter Lepage on Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:41:06 -0500 (CDT)


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Re: Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [s-d]Roster Stuff


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> Date: Fri Jul 16 11:25:47 EDT 2004
> From: "Glotmorf" <dwhytock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [s-d]Roster Stuff
> To: "discussion list for B Nomic" <spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> On 16 Jul 2004 at 10:55, athena@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:31:56AM -0400, Daniel Peter Lepage wrote: >
> > Zarpint wrote: > > > You don't actually delete the fund and other game
> > objects, just the > > rules that declare their existence. They
> > probably still have some sort > > of nebulous existence. > > I thought
> > we'd had a CFI about such things, but I can't find it in the archive.
> > We did discuss it at one point, though, and I believe we reached the
> > conclusion that once an object ceases to be defined by the rules it
> > ceases to exist for all intents and purposes. Specifically, the text
> > of r13 makes it clear that to be a Game Object, a thing must be
> > described by the rules, so repealing the defining rule causes a thing
> > to cease to be a Game Object.
> > 
> > Not so clear to me. The object existed at one point. At no point was
> > it ever destroyed, though the Rules mentioning it were repealed. There
> > have been proposals that specifically deleted objects after repealing
> > the rules, suggesting that deleting the rule doesn't delete the
> > object. I'm not sure that it is no longer a Game Object.
> 
> There have been instances of "legacy" objects -- objects that 
> existed long enough to get into players' possession, which 
> meant they were part of the gamestate, and therefore, by 
> Dave's interpretation, didn't go away just because the rule 
> did.  There was also an instance of something existing 
> according to one version of a rule, the rule changing, and it 
> being decided that the objects still belonged to the old rule 
> rather than the new rule -- Wonko's "Stock Scam".

I thought I lost that suit... the "Stock Scam" was when I bought a billion shares of somebody's stock (Mithrandir, I think) for free because e had no points and then sold them back at two BNS apiece after giving em 11 points. 

-- 
Wonko

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