[spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] repeal-o-prop

[Daniel Lepage <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Jan 16, 2004, at 11:12 PM, SkArcher wrote:

> I propose;
>
> {{
> __Nevinyrral's Disk__
> [[
> since you are all into cards right now, i'm sure at least one person 
> gets that reference
> ]]

I agree with the Baron. Nevinyral's disk would be more like Uin's 
"Repeal all rules" proposal. It's more like Phyrexian Reclamation than 
anything else.

</nerd>

> repeal the following rules in their entirety;
>
> 255 [[257 does exactly the same thing and we don't need 2 rules to 
> keep track of it]]
> 295 [[I fail to see the point]]

Some rules will become nonsensical if you do this; for example, 258 
(The Pink Cashmere Scarf of Impeccable Style) refers to gender a lot.

Actually, that seems to be the only one. Nonetheless, I will have to 
vote SHELVE on this proposal unless you take that into account.

> 437 [[creates either ambiguous rules, bad poetry or over-long 
> additions to the ruleset]]

Here I disagree. As far as I know, only two rules have any poetic text 
in them - this rule, where the Song Form and Void Form definitions are 
partially in their forms, and r893, which really ought to be neatened 
up some day.

> 578

I agree that there are bugs in societies, but there are also good 
things that have come from them, too, such as the Underground Society. 
All they need are some limitations, and perhaps an easy way to destroy 
them if they get out of hand.

> 1081

Once again you need to consider everything that relates to the rule - 
154.B.5. __BAC__ refers to alcoholic beverages, as do r502 (Happy New 
Nyear!), and r1252 (Parties).

> 1139 [[Because nobody ever has]]

Anybody wanna step in and save this ministry?

> 1252 [[I think we all know this is abused]]

Or... we could remove the abusable philosophies...

> 1272

It's not used much, but I hope it will be once the Council is set up - 
Dave can deputize them to do his work, before we finally do away with 
the position of "administrator" and make them formally do his work.

> 1639 [[We broke this in record time I think]]

How is it broken?

> 1637

This should have been destroyed long ago.

> repeal sub-sections B.1. and B.3. of rule 256 and renumber all 
> sub-sections accordingly

Nobody uses the remaining ones; why not remove them all? We can always 
put them back in later, if need be.

> alter rule 625 to read as follows
>
> {{
> __Quotes__
>
> There exists a Game Document known as the Big Ol' Book of Quotes.
>
> The Quotekeeper is responsible for updating the Big Ol' Book of Quotes 
> in accordance with the rules defining that entity.
>
> Each nweek The Quotekeeper shall be paid two points per quote added to 
> the Big Ol' Book of Quotes.
>
> }}

Don't destroy MinGrems unless you destroy Gremlins too. Don't destroy 
MinEcon if you don't destroy BNS too. Don't destroy MinKeys - I still 
hope that someday Dave will let somebody edit keywords, and things will 
suddenly be logical.

> }}
>
>
> Now, from what I can see, the admins responsibilities are now only the 
> following
>
> recognising props

And all other game actions.

> publishing ballots
> counting votes
> publishing results
> amending typos & other things according to r257
>
> the first 4 of these can be done by duties - i'll write up on how 
> tomorrow.

The first one can't be done by a duty - it requires somebody with 
access to the database. Besides which, many of these are largely 
automated already - all we need is a Ministry of Votes to input them 
into Dave's scripts, and the publishing, counting, and publishing again 
are all taken care of.

> the last can be made a special form of proposal, possibly an 
> unauthored prop.

I'd planned on making it a Council petition.

Of course, Dave has to do them all anyway, at the moment, 'cause he's 
the only one who can edit the rules DB.

--
Wonko
Award Wonko a Win.
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