Rob Speer on 30 Jul 2003 23:09:52 -0000

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Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] NWEEK 46 BALLOT

On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:44:26PM -0400, Daniel Lepage wrote:
> According to r1592, what 'the application of a single rule' means is 
> that 'The circumstances prevailing in the state of the subgame can only 
> be affected as described in the rule which defines that subgame. ' 
> However, the circumstances prevailing in the state of the Go game can 
> be affected by at least one other rule - Forfeiture. (or would you 
> claim that the absence of one of the players doesn't change the state 
> of the subgame?)

So then the rule doesn't prevent all of Go from working - it only
prevents the state of the game being affected by forfeiture.

> Anyway, the shelve vote stands regardless, because the prop doesn't 
> actually address the issue of quitting players - what happens to their 
> stones? Who owns them, who gets the points at the end of the game, who 
> are they now allied to, etc.?

Well, it looks like that just got decided automatically. If a player
forfeits, not a damn thing happens. Their stones remain on the board,
and their allies remain their allies.

It would be difficult for anyone to form new alliances with a
non-existent player. Also, in the end, the Go game might attempt to give
them some points, and fail.

Is there anything particularly wrong with this?

Rob Speer

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