Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Points

[Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 01:24  PM, Baron von Skippy wrote:

> > I move in the Dimensions, moving 250 steps in the Score direction 
> > (that
> > is, away from the 0 point, not towards it). Then I move in the
> > Dimensions again, 450 units away from 0 in the Charm direction, 200
> > units away from 0 in the Respect Dimension, and 20 units towards 0 in
> > the BAC Dimension.
> >
> > As per r154.B.2. [[Dimensions/Existing Dimensions/Charm]], I win.
> >
> > I cite as justification r407 [[Space]] which states:
> > {{
> > A Space is a part of the game state in which it is possible to move in
> > multiple directions. In general, a player's position in each direction
> > is called a Component.
> > }}
> >
> > Later, it states
> > {{
> > The two Spaces that currently exist are the Dimensions, where each
> > Dimension is a Component, and the Grid, where the X and Y values are
> > the two Components.
> > }}
> >
> > The logic backing my claim runs as follows:
> >
> > Charm, Respect, and BAC are all Dimensions. [[r154, Dimensions]]
> > The Dimensions is a Space where each Dimension is a Component. [[r407,
> > Space]]
> > It is possible to move within a Space in the directions indicated by
> > Components. [[r407, Space]]
> >
> > Thus, it is possible to move in any Dimension, including Score, Charm,
> > Respect, and BAC, which I have now done.
> -Rule 21 states "Whenever a rule states that a player receives points, 
> the number of points in eir possession shall be increased 
> accordingly." No rule states that you recieved points. And no rule 
> states that "moving in the Score dimension" and "recieving points" are 
> the same thing, so therefore you moved, but got no points as as 
> result. Ditto for every other dimension. So... you're now at a totally 
> random location with nothing else changed. Interesting.-

According to r154 [[Dimensions]], "Score" is a nickname for "The number 
of points in one's possession". By my previous logic, I can change my 
score; this is equivalent to changing the number of points in my 
possession, because that's what score is.

Saying "ditto for every other dimension" is in this case completely 
nonsensical; there is no equivalent of a 'point' in the other 
dimensions.

And that bit of r21 has absolutely nothing to do with this. In fact, 
that sentence has absolutely nothing to do with *anything*; it's purely 
redundant. Of course if I get a point, I now have that point.

And I did get points, by increasing the number of points in my 
possession.

--
Wonko

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