Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Points

[Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 08:28  AM, SkArcher wrote:

> 16/07/2003 13:15:49, Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I move in the Dimensions, moving 250 steps in the Score direction 
> > (that
> > is, away from the 0 point, not towards it). Then I move in the
> > Dimensions again, 450 units away from 0 in the Charm direction, 200
> > units away from 0 in the Respect Dimension, and 20 units towards 0 in
> > the BAC Dimension.
> >
> > As per r154.B.2. [[Dimensions/Existing Dimensions/Charm]], I win.
> >
> > I cite as justification r407 [[Space]] which states:
> > {{
> > A Space is a part of the game state in which it is possible to move in
> > multiple directions. In general, a player's position in each direction
> > is called a Component.
> > }}
> >
> > Later, it states
> > {{
> > The two Spaces that currently exist are the Dimensions, where each
> > Dimension is a Component, and the Grid, where the X and Y values are
> > the two Components.
> > }}
> >
> > The logic backing my claim runs as follows:
> >
> > Charm, Respect, and BAC are all Dimensions. [[r154, Dimensions]]
> > The Dimensions is a Space where each Dimension is a Component. [[r407,
> > Space]]
> > It is possible to move within a Space in the directions indicated by
> > Components. [[r407, Space]]
> >
> > Thus, it is possible to move in any Dimension, including Score, Charm,
> > Respect, and BAC, which I have now done.
> >
> > --
> > Wonko
>
> I (unsurprisingly) Call for Inquiry on this claim, naming the 
> defendant as Wonko
>
> Statement: Wonko did not just score a Win
>
> Reasoning: It is possible to move within a Space in the directions 
> indicated by
> Components. [[r407, Space]] - however, methods of such movement are 
> defined in the rules, therefore rule 18
> [[Permissibility of the Unprohibited]] which states that 'With the 
> exception of Rule Changes whatever is not
> prohibited or regulated by the Ruleset is permitted and unregulated.' 
> means that wonkos moves, which take place
> in a defined and regulated part of the gamestate, are invalid due to 
> them being an undefined method of such
> movement

R18 in no way shape or form restricts what can be done. Rather, r18 
permits certain actions to be performed, if they are unregulated; r18 
is thus entirely irrelevant to this discussion, because I don't need it 
to permit my actions.

Rather, my actions are permitted by r407, which states that it is 
possible to move in dimensions. So I did. R18 doesn't come into it.

--
Wonko

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