Re: [Spoon-business] Re: [spoon-discuss] Ow.

[Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 11:00  PM, Glotmorf wrote:

> On 6/28/03 at 8:56 PM Daniel Lepage wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 12:12  AM, Glotmorf wrote:
> >
> > > On 6/27/03 at 11:42 PM bd wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Friday 27 June 2003 11:22 pm, Glotmorf wrote:
> > > > > Okay, my head is starting to hurt.  If the ruleset is a Cadillac,
> > > > > and the
> > > > > players are morons with shotguns, I'm not quite sure, after all the
> > > > blasts,
> > > > > just how much of the actual car is remaining.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rather than focusing on what we want to blow away, has anyone 
> > > > > thought
> > > > about
> > > > > what we actually want to keep?  Like, should someone at least 
> > > > > remove
> > > > > the
> > > > > tires and radio first?
> > > >
> > > > Let's keep the shotguns. :)
> > >
> > > Consider it done.
> > >
> > > {{ _Lock and Load_
> > >
> > > {{ _The Shotgun Rule_
> > >
> > > At the end of each nweek, a random rule, other than this one and Rule
> > > 0, is repealed.  If this rule and Rule 0 are the only ones remaining,
> > > this rule is repealed.
> > >
> > > }}
> > >
> > > }}
> >
> > Don't you need to actually *do* something to make this prop
> > worthwhile...? Like, create a rule or something...?
>
> And you call yourself a veteran.  Far as I know, a combination of the 
> Boilerplate and Standard Delimiter rules still serve to say that if 
> something is in curly brackets with nothing else saying what it is 
> it's a proposal, and if something is inside that proposal with curly 
> brackets with nothing else saying what it is it's a new rule to be 
> created.  That's how my old prose props used to work.
>
> In fact, that recent prop of yours that you amended to include "Create 
> a rule:" would have been fine in the first version.

And you call yourself a Patriarch. The rule you're trying to mention, 
r216, Elimination of Boilerplate, allows us to propose rules without 
declaring the 'create a rule' bit by simply making the prop the rule. 
If your proposal were entitled __The Shotgun Rule__, and had the text 
as its sole text, that would work. But the rule to be created must have 
the same name as the proposal to create it, so as it is, if you claim 
that you're proposing a rule, then it's a rule entitled "Lock and Load" 
which for some reason has a delimited block entitled "The Shotgun Rule" 
in it.

The exact text of r216 is:
{{
To "propose a rule" is defined to mean making a proposal which contains 
one Action, which is to create a Rule. The Proposal is given the same 
title as the Rule. The Proposal and the Rule need not be introduced 
separately.

When proposing multiple rules, it is only necessary that the rules be 
clearly delimited. The Standard Delimiters may serve this purpose.
}}

Also, I believe you need to declare that you're proposing a rule. As in,

I propose a rule:
{{
<snip>
}}

Simply stating the prop does not technically even imply that you're 
issuing a proposal; only that you feel the need to speak some delimited 
text on a public forum.

See r217 ( http://www.nomic.net/~g6//curver.php?rn=217 ) for more 
details on delimiters and their use :)

--
Wonko

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