Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Proxy Fixes

[bd <bdonlan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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On Sunday 22 June 2003 02:39 am, Daniel Lepage wrote:
> On Sunday, June 22, 2003, at 01:47  AM, Adam Hill wrote:
> > --- "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> I don't buy that.  If a bunch of people vote together, it overwhelms
> >> everyone anyway.  If a bunch of people arrange to vote together via
> >> the actions of a single person, that's not different from everyone
> >> voting together.  The giving of proxies has to be done on the public
> >> forum, and the possession of proxies is recorded on the roster.  It's
> >> not something that's going to accidentally sneak up on people.  If
> >> someone has a majority of votes through proxy, it's because a
> >> majority of people are willing to vote all the same way.
> >>
> >> 						Glotmorf
> >
> > Yes, but that's assuming that a proxy giver agrees completely with the
> > proxy receiver, which is practically impossible.  For example, bd and
> > I usually vote the same way, so if I needed to proxy I would proxy to
> > em.  But there are always going to be votes where bd and I disagree.
> > If everyone gives their votes to bd, and bd doesn't agree with all of
> > those people on one particular vote out of many, then that screws up
> > the majority system.  It doesn't mean that there's an alliance, or
> > that bd is scheming; it means that popular opinion gives way to
> > compromised opinion.  The one-proxy-per-person rule is standard in
> > legislative arenas, and I think it would work better in our paradigm
> > as well.
>
> But even with your prop in place, people will still be able to "give"
> their proxies to people already having them using automation scripts.
> Also, your prop would mean that I could stop you from giving your proxy
> to bd by giving him mine; I'd still be able to override any votes e
> cast for me, so I wouldn't lose anything, and meanwhile your proxy
> would be wasted.

I think we should get rid of Automation Scripts entirely - they're too much 
work.
- -- 
bd
Yeah, there are more important things in life than money, but they won't go
out with you if you don't have any.
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