Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Proxy Fixes

[Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sunday, June 22, 2003, at 01:47  AM, Adam Hill wrote:

> --- "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I don't buy that.  If a bunch of people vote together, it overwhelms 
> > everyone anyway.  If a bunch of people arrange to vote together via 
> > the actions of a single person, that's not different from everyone 
> > voting together.  The giving of proxies has to be done on the public 
> > forum, and the possession of proxies is recorded on the roster.  It's 
> > not something that's going to accidentally sneak up on people.  If 
> > someone has a majority of votes through proxy, it's because a 
> > majority of people are willing to vote all the same way.
> >
> > 						Glotmorf
>
> Yes, but that's assuming that a proxy giver agrees completely with the 
> proxy receiver, which is practically impossible.  For example, bd and 
> I usually vote the same way, so if I needed to proxy I would proxy to 
> em.  But there are always going to be votes where bd and I disagree.  
> If everyone gives their votes to bd, and bd doesn't agree with all of 
> those people on one particular vote out of many, then that screws up 
> the majority system.  It doesn't mean that there's an alliance, or 
> that bd is scheming; it means that popular opinion gives way to 
> compromised opinion.  The one-proxy-per-person rule is standard in 
> legislative arenas, and I think it would work better in our paradigm 
> as well.

But even with your prop in place, people will still be able to "give" 
their proxies to people already having them using automation scripts. 
Also, your prop would mean that I could stop you from giving your proxy 
to bd by giving him mine; I'd still be able to override any votes e 
cast for me, so I wouldn't lose anything, and meanwhile your proxy 
would be wasted.

Also, you might want to replace "Players" with "Entities"; otherwise a 
cover society could effectively get around the ban perfectly legally.

--
Wonko

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