Glotmorf on 22 Jun 2003 08:13:01 -0000 |
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Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Proxy Fixes |
On 6/21/03 at 10:47 PM Adam Hill wrote: >--- "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>I don't buy that. If a bunch of people vote together, it overwhelms >everyone anyway. If a bunch of people arrange to vote together via the >actions of a single person, that's not different from everyone voting >together. The giving of proxies has to be done on the public forum, and >the possession of proxies is recorded on the roster. It's not something >that's going to accidentally sneak up on people. If someone has a >majority of votes through proxy, it's because a majority of people are >willing to vote all the same way. >> >> Glotmorf > >Yes, but that's assuming that a proxy giver agrees completely with the >proxy receiver, which is practically impossible. For example, bd and I >usually vote the same way, so if I needed to proxy I would proxy to em. >But there are always going to be votes where bd and I disagree. If >everyone gives their votes to bd, and bd doesn't agree with all of those >people on one particular vote out of many, then that screws up the >majority system. It doesn't mean that there's an alliance, or that bd is >scheming; it means that popular opinion gives way to compromised opinion. >The one-proxy-per-person rule is standard in legislative arenas, and I >think it would work better in our paradigm as well. Not sure which legislative arenas you're talking about. It's a common occurrence in stockholder voting for a given person to hold the proxies for hundreds or thousands of minority shareholders. And the last two homeowner associations I was in would ask for residents to give proxies to one of the board members of their choosing to ensure a quorum. Besides..."because everyone else does it that way" usually isn't the most powerful argument possible in a Nomic game...:) Glotmorf ----- The Ivory Mini-Tower: a blog study in Social Technology. http://ix.1sound.com/ivoryminitower _______________________________________________ spoon-discuss mailing list spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/spoon-discuss