Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Who wins?

["Orc In A Spacesuit" <orcinaspacesuit@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> From: Rob Speer <rspeer@xxxxxxx>
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 07:27:13PM -0500, Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
> > I honestly don't understand what you're saying here.  I'm guessing that 
> > you're saying that I can't make something a rule, because a rule has to be 
> > created, like your ham sandwich.  If this is the case, then, to use your 
> > analogy, I'm not creating a ham sandwich from scratch; I've already got 
> > most of it (the charter), sitting there for a while; I'm just sticking in 
> > the ham and mustard to make it a full ham sandwich.
>
> Okay. Let's go into the hypothetical world where your action worked.
>
> You made a rule out of other stuff. Just like creating a ham sandwich,
> you created a rule.
>
> But you can't do that, because the rules don't let you create a rule
> except in certain ways.

Really?  Where?  I see where it says rules can only be changed/created as 
explictly or implicity described /anywhere/ in the ruleset (R11 & R18), and 
I see one explicitly described way to change the rules (R15.G), but nowhere 
does it say that this is the only way to create a rule.  The circuit breaker 
(R851) creates rules too.  R578, as I showed elsewhere, implicity descibes a 
way.

> Anyway, someone else found a better reason why it doesn't work -
> something about changing the Ruleset.

That other reason was "you can't change the ruleset except as stated in the 
ruleset"; funny thing is, R578 /is/ in the ruleset.  So it's implicitly 
described method works.

Orc in a Spacesuit

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