Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Who wins?

["Orc In A Spacesuit" <orcinaspacesuit@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> From: Rob Speer <rspeer@xxxxxxx>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 04:22:45PM -0500, Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
> > I do not think that modifying a charter such that it becomes a rule counts 
> > as a Rule Change.  It is not a creation of the rule, as it already existed 
> > while not a rule.  It is not modification of a rule, as it is not a rule 
> > until the modification happens.  And nothing's being deleted.
>
> When you create a ham sandwich, it used to be a few slices of bread, a
> slab of meat, and assorted other ingredients.

Makes sense to me.

> When you create a rule, it used to be a bunch of text characters in a
> proposal.

Makes sense, pretty much.  Rules can be created via other methods, however, 
such as the Circuit Breaker.

> Except for this supposed rule, which used to be a Charter. Turning it
> into a rule would be creating a rule the same way that the usual method
> is creating a rule. So this rule doesn't exist, as it would have had to
> be created first, which is illegal.

I honestly don't understand what you're saying here.  I'm guessing that 
you're saying that I can't make something a rule, because a rule has to be 
created, like your ham sandwich.  If this is the case, then, to use your 
analogy, I'm not creating a ham sandwich from scratch; I've already got most 
of it (the charter), sitting there for a while; I'm just sticking in the ham 
and mustard to make it a full ham sandwich.

If I'm missing misunderstanding, please show me how.

> I agree with Orc on the rest. Therefore, nobody wins.
> --
> Rob Speer

Orc in a Spacesuit

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