Re: [spoon-discuss] Nomic relations

["Orc In A Spacesuit" <orcinaspacesuit@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> > I said before that the proposed rule was too general, too vague, and tried 
> > to do too much with those general, vague terms.  Wonko, I think, has the 
> > same objections, but finds specific problems.
> >
> > I think the solution is to not try to build this giant structure with 
> > Subers and object limitations and such; instead, we should do each 
> > interaction with another nomic as a custom job.  Maybe trade a few items 
> > with one.  Maybe have interactions in another, not trading, but 
> > cause-effect things, like whenever Whoopass explodes here, it does 
> > something to another nomic.  Other stuff.  But each time it should be done 
> > with each nomic as a completly custom job.
> >
> > My 2¢.
> >
> > Orc in a Spacesuit
> -I'm almost willing to agree, so keep talking. Just answer me one thing. 
> What happens when they steal our rules and make our stuff for next to 
> nothing, to spite us? Answer me that and I'll go over to your way of 
> thinking. Say "we crush them with great justice," and I'll pretend I never 
> suggested the idea in the first place.-
>
> [[BvS]]

Well, what's to stop any nomic from looking at our ruleset, saying "ooh, 
those are cool!", and making a new rule that's like it?  And the fact that 
there is no single overarching authority (like a single unified ruleset) to 
govern such things, and such is damn impossible and/or wouldn't be agreed 
upon, opening up free-flowing commerce just doesn't seem to be something 
that'll work out too well.  I think that hammering out very specific rules 
in both nomics for each kind of interaction would be best; if they feel like 
"stealing" rules, they can, though if they set up rules specifically to 
trade Whoopass with us, I see little point -- we have rules defining the 
generation of Big Sticks, and whether these Sticks come from the nether or 
come from another nomic shouldn't be much an issue.

If you're wanting a free-flowing commerce, that's another issue.  If you 
want to do that, then the only way to truly regulate it would be to create a 
new InterNomic, and have all everything -- points, Subers, objects, whatever 
-- be totally governed by this InterNomic, as its own objects.  It could, 
for example, have the rule "Any participant nomic may pay B Nomic 4 Subers 
to gain 1 Can of Whoopass."  Then, C-Nomic could have the rule "Whenever C 
Nomic gains possession of a Can of Whoopass in InterNomic, any player may 
purchase a Can of Whoopass in this nomic for 20 C-Notes."  We have our Cans, 
InterNomic has their own Cans, and C-Nomic has its own cans.  Heck, D-Nomic 
could even have "Whenever D-Nomic gains possession of a Can of Whoopass in 
InterNomic, all players become Flurbled and are moved to the Punishement 
Room".

There's a lot to do with this.  But we either need to have each thing done 
real individually with each nomic, or get a central authority.

Orc in a Spacesuit

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