Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] "Fix" fix...er, fix

["Orc In A Spacesuit" <orcinaspacesuit@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> On 10/26/02 at 5:53 PM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
>
> >>From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>On 10/26/02 at 5:22 PM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >How about you just say "When a Player goes On Leave, e leaves all
> >> >> >societies."  And e can rejoin when e gets back.  That's pretty dang
> >> >>simple.
> >> >>
> >> >>Then e loses the benefit of any club props that were made before e 
> went
> >> >on
> >> >>leave, but passed while e's on leave.  That's unfair.  Especially
> >>because
> >> >>most people go on leave for reasons they can't control.
> >> >
> >> >Yup, that solution does suck, but so does a solution that fractures 
> the
> >> >gamestate.  The best solution is to not let Socities force people to 
> do
> >> >stuff without em being able to make a decision about it.  They can
> >either
> >> >do
> >> >what is asked by the Society, or face the Society's wrath (ousting or
> >> >whatever).
> >> >
> >> >I don't see why you have to complicate things up so much.
> >>
> >>I told you, I have a special situation.  And what I'm doing hardly
> >>"fractures the gamestate".
> >>
> >>And the members of a society can make a decision.  They can accept the
> >>changes that are coming, or quit the society before they come.  If a
> >player
> >>is On Leave and the charter gets changed, e can accept the changes that
> >>have happened, or quit the society.
> >>
> >>By your rule players can't be surprised by changes.  By my change,
> >players
> >>on leave can't be surprised by them either.
> >>
> >>It's just not that complicated.  And it preserves my existing
> >>functionality.  Almost.
> >
> >By my rule, if someone is suprised by the leader suddenly becoming a
> >fascist, they can just leave, or they can stay without consequences.  The
> >worst the Society can do is kick em out, and maybe do some of the same
> >things any player can.
>
> Exactly.  By your rule, someone can just leave if they don't like changes.  
> By your rule and my change, someone can just leave if e doesn't want to pay 
> dues.  After all, the dues requirement isn't going to come out of nowhere.  
> You've said society actions are dictated by the charter, so a society isn't 
> going to start charging dues unless it was created that way or there's a 
> charter change.  Either way it won't be a surprise, and, as you said, by 
> your rule they can leave.  So what's the problem?
>
> 						Glotmorf

What if someone stops checking eir email for the 3 days it takes?  Or what 
if someone misses the change?

I just don't see why Societies should be able to legally force people into 
anything.  They should voluntarily comply if the society is good.

Orc In A Spacesuit

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