Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] "Fix" fix...er, fix

["Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 10/26/02 at 5:53 PM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:

>>From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>On 10/26/02 at 5:22 PM Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
>>
>> >> >How about you just say "When a Player goes On Leave, e leaves all
>> >> >societies."  And e can rejoin when e gets back.  That's pretty dang
>> >>simple.
>> >>
>> >>Then e loses the benefit of any club props that were made before e went
>> >on
>> >>leave, but passed while e's on leave.  That's unfair.  Especially
>>because
>> >>most people go on leave for reasons they can't control.
>> >
>> >Yup, that solution does suck, but so does a solution that fractures the
>> >gamestate.  The best solution is to not let Socities force people to do
>> >stuff without em being able to make a decision about it.  They can
>either
>> >do
>> >what is asked by the Society, or face the Society's wrath (ousting or
>> >whatever).
>> >
>> >I don't see why you have to complicate things up so much.
>>
>>I told you, I have a special situation.  And what I'm doing hardly
>>"fractures the gamestate".
>>
>>And the members of a society can make a decision.  They can accept the
>>changes that are coming, or quit the society before they come.  If a
>player
>>is On Leave and the charter gets changed, e can accept the changes that
>>have happened, or quit the society.
>>
>>By your rule players can't be surprised by changes.  By my change,
>players
>>on leave can't be surprised by them either.
>>
>>It's just not that complicated.  And it preserves my existing
>>functionality.  Almost.
>
>By my rule, if someone is suprised by the leader suddenly becoming a
>fascist, they can just leave, or they can stay without consequences.  The
>worst the Society can do is kick em out, and maybe do some of the same
>things any player can.

Exactly.  By your rule, someone can just leave if they don't like changes.  By your rule and my change, someone can just leave if e doesn't want to pay dues.  After all, the dues requirement isn't going to come out of nowhere.  You've said society actions are dictated by the charter, so a society isn't going to start charging dues unless it was created that way or there's a charter change.  Either way it won't be a surprise, and, as you said, by your rule they can leave.  So what's the problem?

						Glotmorf


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