Glotmorf on 20 Oct 2002 06:18:02 -0000


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Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] More Stuff: Justice (sort of...)


On 10/20/02 at 12:59 AM Wonko wrote:

>> bd is recused from CFI 1103.
>This one's hard to say; I'd rule false, but whether "(Chutzpah 2)"
>appearing
>in a rule is enough to establish that rule's Chutzpah as 2 is, in the end,
>a
>matter of interpretation. I'm just not sure that mention of a number is
>enough to make it law.

>From Rule 497: "A subsection can have Chutzpah ratings independent of and different from the rule or subsection that contains it. The subsection Chutzpah is specified next to the subsection title. "  So r578.F has Chutzpah 2 by this rule.

If this rule for some reason doesn't apply, then you still have a specification of Chutzpah within the rule, which falls under Rule 33: "If the Chutzpah of a rule is not otherwise indicated, its Chutzpah is assumed to be 1." Well, it's otherwise indicated.  Which is as valid an argument as many you've made of late, buddy.

>You know what might be helpful? A Ministry of Justice, who'd be responsible
>for telling people (emailing them personally, perhaps) that they had CFI's
>pending... 'cause I'll bet Voice, bd and Orc had the same problem.

Or an automailer.  Though I do remember you being assigned to my "everything is gone" CFI and...cringing.

>I do recall that some Nomic (Nomic World, I think) evolved a system
>involving a pool of Judges, where players could enlist themselves as
>specialists in certain rules, so people who made a study of, say, voting
>rules would be more likely to recieve voting CFI's, etc. Of course, Nomic
>World had over thirty players, so I guess they had more players to choose
>from, but I wonder if we could get some similar system set up here...

The problem is, if someone specialized in a rule, and another, far more obscure rule came up that conflicted with it, is e responsible for that too?

Perhaps a different sort of redo is needed, which might solve the less-is-more problem too: Major Topics.  Perhaps all rules need to fall under some Major Topic or other, Major Topics have to be explicitly created before rules can be added to them, and a rule flat-out can't be added unless it's given a Major Topic to fall under.

Not sure what to do about "crossover" -- rules in one topic that affect things in another -- except perhaps that unless that affect is clearly stated as affecting that other topic, or that thing in that other topic, that affect doesn't exist.

						Glotmorf


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