Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Here's another one:

[Wonko <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Quoth Glotmorf,

> --- Wonko <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Quoth Glotmorf,
>> 
>>> On 10/6/02 at 11:26 AM Wonko wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I create another society, entitled __Wonko gets
>> points__, with the
>>>> following
>>>> initial members: Wonko
>>>> And the following Charter:
>>>> {{
>>>> Members of "Wonko gets points" may gain points by
>> declaring that they do so
>>>> in a public forum.
>>>> }}
>>>> 
>>>> I create 1000 points in my possession.
>>>> 
>>>> [[Why is this legal, you ask? Because the Society
>> rule says that, "A
>>>> Society
>>>> may convey certain privileges, restrictions or
>> responsibilities to its
>>>> Members, subject to the rules of the game". Well,
>> there's no rule that
>>>> actually forbids societies from giving me the
>> privilege of creating points,
>>>> so it turns out that it's perfectly legal.
>> Whee!]]
>>> 
>>> Societies' rules defer to game rules.  The default
>> case says you can't change
>>> the game state.  So even if the society charter
>> says you can gain points, you
>>> can't change the game state in that way.
>> 
>> The default case says that I can't change the
>> gamestate without another
>> rule's permission. The Society rule itself gives me
>> this permission, by
>> saying that societies may grant priveleges to their
>> members.
>> 
>> Sorry, guy. ;)
> 
> That's subsection A that says privileges may be
> granted.  Subsection B says internal rules defer to
> game rules.  So Rule 33 says B overrides A.
> 
> Sorry, guy. :)

So internal rules defer to game rules. Nowhere does it say that players may
not create points. It does say that I can't change the gamestate without
another rule's permission, but section A gives me that permission. So
Section B doesn't have anything to force me to defer to.

Got anything else?

-- 
Wonko

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