Orc In A Spacesuit on 8 Oct 2002 05:08:02 -0000


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[spoon-discuss] help for Dave


First, an apoligy for everyone:
Hey guys, it's now 2:46 PM, out morning and squarely in the afternoon. I apoligize about my earlier ranting; it's like a Jekyll and Hyde thing with me. If I'm not fully conscious, I'm gonna make things sound bad, and I'll probably confuse you as well. At least I had the sense to say "Hey, I'm being stupid, take this with a grain of salt' or whatever. I hope no one took offense at anything.

Anyway, about the constructive stuff. Dave, here's what that prop does for you:

"Repeal Rule 6, __Game Definitions__"
Since the CFI(s) in question hasn't been judged yet, everything still exists. This lets everything keep existing. The rule doesn't really help much anyway, as different meanings of those words were intended by authors of different proposals. This is the whole reason for the uber-prop; if we are going to standardize definitions, we need to bring the whole ruleset in line.

"If any changes to the charters of any societies were made between the submitting and and passing of this proposal, undo those changes and any results of them. [[I'm basically freezing societies from right when I submit it to when these safeguards take place]]"

You can ignore any future craziness

Deactivate Rule 946, __B Nomic Stock Exchange__
[[I think it's patched up, but nobody's using it pretty much, and I still think it's a minefield.]]

It might cause problems, and you don't need another problem, do you?

Deactivate Rule 1077, __Mining The Grid__
[[This fixes the 'spend 70 BNS to destroy just about anything' problem']]

It doesn't 'un-mine' anything mined this nweek, so you still have to destroy the things (and in some cases, re-create them cause the rules say they always exist) mined this nweek.


Repeal Rule 6, __Game Definitions__
[[This gets rid of the 'everything must have uniquely identifying names' problem; those definitions are flawed anyway, and by being #6 breaks the rules about numbers.]]

Since the CFI(s) in question hasn't been judged yet, everything still exists. This lets everything keep existing. Rule 6 doesn't really help much anyway, as different meanings of those words were intended by authors of different proposals. This is the whole reason for the uber-prop; if we are going to standardize definitions, we need to bring the whole ruleset in line.

If any changes to the charters of any societies were made between the submitting and and passing of this proposal, undo those changes and any results of them. [[I'm basically freezing societies from right when I submit the prop to when these safeguards take place]]

Dave, if this passes, you can just ignore anything else done with societies for the rest of the nweek.

Remove all members of Wonko's Slaves, except Wonko. If any change of points or BNS happened as a result of membership in Wonko's Slaves, undo those changes.

And you can ignore Wonko sucking the points and BNS out of everyone. I'm pretty sure no-one besides Wonko wants to be in there.

Remove all text in the charter of The Secret Mookies after and including the first instance of "Members of The Secret Mookies named Wonko" in that charter. Return to Wonko any points and BNS transferred solely as a result of that removed section.

And you can ignore Wonko May Not Vote sucking the points and BNS out of Wonko.

Create the following rule:
{{__Bureaucracratic Deadlock__{*(Society), 6*}
Society charters may not be changed, except by proposal or administarial bookeeping . This rule takes precedence over any rule that would allow society charters to be changed by any other method than the two stated in the previous sentence. [[Repeal this once societies get fixed]]
}}

This extends the 'no messing with societies' thing. So until this rule gets repealed, that's one less headache for you.

Orc In A Spacesuit
is glad he is in a spacesuit

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