Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Bnomic-private] Sorry, I'm out

[Wonko <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Quoth Glotmorf,

> On 9/21/02 at 10:56 PM bd wrote:
> 
>> On Saturday 21 September 2002 10:58 pm, Glotmorf wrote:
>>> On 9/21/02 at 10:42 PM bd wrote:
>>>> On Saturday 21 September 2002 10:46 pm, Glotmorf wrote:
>>>>> On 9/21/02 at 10:32 PM bd wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday 21 September 2002 10:32 pm, Glotmorf wrote:
>>>>>>> I don't think so...I think Rule 18 actually kicks in here.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Um...I said, I think Rule 18 actually kicks in here.
>>>> 
>>>> What's r18?
>>> 
>>> "With the exception of Rule Changes whatever is not prohibited or
>> regulated
>>> by the Ruleset is permitted and unregulated."
>>> 
>>> It's been demonstrated that objects can be possessed and transferred, and
>>> the IOB appears to be an object.  Since the giving of it to another
>> player
>>> isn't regulated, I'd say it's legal.  It's not like it's the sort of
>> thing
>>> anyone would adamantly not want to have.
>>> 
>>> People have been trying to use r18 to justify all sorts of crap that, it
>>> eventually turns out, is in fact regulated and therefore not open to
>>> freeform interpretation.  But I do believe this is an instance where r18
>>> actually applies.
>> 
>> Hmm, what about the default case? The IOB is part of the Gamestate.
> 
> It defers to r18.

But if the default case regulates an action, then r18 doesn't apply. And the
default case regulates ALL gamestate-changing actions. Thus, r18 hardly ever
applies, since practically everything is regulated by the default case.

But if r18 permits an action, then the default case doesn't apply. And r18
permits ALL unregulated actions. Thus, the default case hardly ever applies,
since practically everything is permitted by r18.

Except that if the default case regulates an action, then r18 doesn't apply.
And the default case regulates ALL gamestate-changing actions. Therefore,
r18 hardly ever applies, since practically everything is regulated by the
default case.

But Wait! If r18 permits an action, then the default case doesn't apply. And
r18 permits ALL unregulated actions. Therefore, the default case hardly ever
applies, since practically everything is permitted by r18.



Looks like we have ourselves a genuine ambiguity.

Anybody want to CFI, or shall I?

-- 
Wonko

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